Thread: No Child Left Behind Is NOT Good.

At least, I don't think so.

Think about it. NCLB is a program started by the Bush Administration, to help children- Mentally Handicapped, especially. It teaches them on a same level as the other children, but with more time devoted to them.

I'm not going to gloss over the good things- Student testing, teacher quality. Yes, that's good. But this detail is what I find bad. Don't think I'm some richboy genius- I struggled in school, for sure. Got kicked out of my fair share. But I made it. I know what it feels like.

First of all, taking time away from other children is bad. I understand that the handicapped people need some level of understanding, yes. But when you take time away from the children who can really understand it, the people of the future.

Second- Most of the handicapped have an incurable disease. I see no reason to teach them anything they frankly won't use it. They can't understand it. Why bother to teach them complicated stuff such as high level math?

I guess I sound pretty bad saying this, but it's my opinion.

I completely agree. Its really annoying to think that more money is being spent on a handicaped kid than there is being spent on me, just because i'm not handicaped! I know that they deserve and equal chance, but by doing this its not equal.

It will leave more children behind.

Originally Posted by Harrycombs

I completely agree. Its really annoying to think that more money is being spent on a handicaped kid than there is being spent on me, just because i'm not handicaped! I know that they deserve and equal chance, but by doing this its not equal.

It will leave more children behind.

Yeah, because again, what are they really going to use it on? I'd think that math skills and reading is all that you can really give them that they'll put to use. They're going to live a sheltered life, face it, and telling them they're not is only hurting them more.

While some people need more attention to do as well as others, and while I do believe they deserve that extra attention if there is a possibility, what I absolutely deplore is when they lower the bar. "I have a learning disorder, so it should take less to pass." No.

No child left behind act. Um...I didn't hear of it being mainly for mentally handicapped children. The standards are raised for everyone...I fail to see how mentally handicapped people are brought into the equation for this subject. It is the personal responsability of each individual to do what you can for yourself. This country was built on the idea that if you have a dream, and you work hard, you can accomplish it. I really wish you would take a second back and remember that those who CAN NOT do for themselves must be taken care of. So many people have got this idea that other people must take care of them, that is why so many people are dependent on well-fare and other types of government provided care. If you have the capability to be great, then it is your duty to get there on your own. I truly understand where your coming from though, it seems unfair that one is valued less than those who, in a very sad, and very real way, have less value in society. Although, take a moment to think of this example. You are a child. You and your sibling both want new shoes. You both got shoes at the same time last year. For whatever reason your parents can only afford to get one of you new shoes. Your shoes aren't all that fancy, but they are infact not that depreciated in value. However your sibling's shoes have holes in them, have shoelaces falling apart at their aglits(the plastic tip), and their feet are in far worse pain than yours. Who deserves to get new shoes?

However, you inadvertantly brought up a very important subject. Corruption in standards such as medical schools most importantly. In our universities of medical care, where we hone the skills of our valued doctors, if you have a handicap due to another group of people under a disabilities act, you have extra time to take tests, and do "in lab" activities. Since many of the people attending universities like this have family already in practice of medical fields, they can have them say they have certain disabilities that they do not have, which gives them an unfair advantage. Also, I can not help the cards that people are dealt, if you have a REAL handicap, then I suggest you stick to passive medical professions please, do not work in a situation where a persons life is on the "immediate" line.

While this is not the only case where over sensitivity is rather overbearing, it is the only case I can actually say that I have active experience with.

Originally Posted by Sandform

No child left behind act. Um...I didn't hear of it being mainly for mentally handicapped children. The standards are raised for everyone...I fail to see how mentally handicapped people are brought into the equation for this subject. It is the personal responsability of each individual to do what you can for yourself. This country was built on the idea that if you have a dream, and you work hard, you can accomplish it. I really wish you would take a second back and remember that those who CAN NOT do for themselves must be taken care of. So many people have got this idea that other people must take care of them, that is why so many people are dependent on well-fare and other types of government provided care. If you have the capability to be great, then it is your duty to get there on your own. I truly understand where your coming from though, it seems unfair that one is valued less than those who, in a very sad, and very real way, have less value in society. Although, take a moment to think of this example. You are a child. You and your sibling both want new shoes. You both got shoes at the same time last year. For whatever reason your parents can only afford to get one of you new shoes. Your shoes aren't all that fancy, but they are infact not that depreciated in value. However your sibling's shoes have holes in them, have shoelaces falling apart at their aglits(the plastic tip), and their feet are in far worse pain than yours. Who deserves to get new shoes?

However, you inadvertantly brought up a very important subject. Corruption in standards such as medical schools most importantly. In our universities of medical care, where we hone the skills of our valued doctors, if you have a handicap due to another group of people under a disabilities act, you have extra time to take tests, and do "in lab" activities. Since many of the people attending universities like this have family already in practice of medical fields, they can have them say they have certain disabilities that they do not have, which gives them an unfair advantage. Also, I can not help the cards that people are dealt, if you have a REAL handicap, then I suggest you stick to passive medical professions please, do not work in a situation where a persons life is on the "immediate" line.

While this is not the only case where over sensitivity is rather overbearing, it is the only case I can actually say that I have active experience with.

Like I said, I understand the good things, but I draw the line at a mental handicap that CANNOT be cured. They WILL be taken care of, naturally get welfare checks... His shoes might be riddled with holes, but he doesn't have to walk on the hot sand.

And yes, that's another thing, having more time to take tests and more room for error isn't proving that they are good for the job, it only proves that when given tons of time and more room for error that they can succeed.