Thread: Public Q for PJ; Glbl. Warm. Consequences

I did not PM this question because I think it can give rise to good discussion considering the topic.

A while back we discussed global warming. The truth and debate about global warming aside; I am curious if you are satisfied with how implementations are going?

To anyone else reading; do you think global warming implementations have been beneficial so far..? Manipulative in anyway..?
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Eh... ok, I'll bite:

Something I found on another site that's interesting to note:

We all know that the Earth is experiencing global warming and other changes, whether the petroleum giants like it or not. Just read the headlines.

What we may NOT know is the following:

SUN: The Sun’s magnetic field is over 230 percent stronger now than it was at the beginning of the 1900s, and its overall energetic activity has sizably increased, creating a frenzy of activity that continues to embarrass NASA’s official predictions.

VENUS: Venus is now glowing in the dark, as is Jupiter’s moon Io.

EARTH: In the last 30 years, Earth’s icecaps have thinned out by as much as 40 percent. Quite inexplicably, just since 1997 the structure of the Earth has shifted from being slightly more egg-shaped, or elongated at the poles, to more pumpkin-shaped, or flattened at the poles. No one at NASA has even bothered to try to explain this yet. Link to full article at NASA.

MARS: The icecaps of Mars noticeably melted just within one year, causing 50-percent changes in surface features. Atmospheric density had risen by 200 percent above previous observations as of 1997.

JUPITER: Jupiter has become so highly energized that it is now surrounded by a visibly glowing donut tube of energy in the path of the moon Io. The size of Jupiter’s magnetic field has more than doubled since 1992.

SATURN: Saturn’s polar regions have been noticeably brightening, and its magnetic field strength increasing.

URANUS: According to NASA’s Voyager II space probe, Uranus and Neptune both appear to have had recent magnetic pole shifts – 60 degrees for Uranus and 50 for Neptune.

NEPTUNE: Neptune has become 40 percent brighter in infrared since 1996, and is fully 100-percent brighter in certain areas. Also, Neptune’s moon Triton has had a “very large percentage increase” in atmospheric pressure and temperature, comparable to a 22-degree Fahrenheit increase on Earth.

PLUTO: As of September 2002, Pluto has experienced a 300-percent increase in its atmospheric pressure in the last 14 years, while also becoming noticeably darker in color.

My point? Well, if this is really due to the movement of our solar system, then I guess there would be no point in implementing the emissions bills and such. We really have no choice in the matter. We should be stock pilling sunblock, rubber boots, flashlights and batteries

There are some good things about global warming, Africa is getting more rain for one, but i'm in a gnnnarrr mood so i'll post more later.

Originally Posted by Tornado Joe

Eh... ok, I'll bite:

Something I found on another site that's interesting to note:

We all know that the Earth is experiencing global warming and other changes, whether the petroleum giants like it or not. Just read the headlines.

What we may NOT know is the following:

SUN: The Sun’s magnetic field is over 230 percent stronger now than it was at the beginning of the 1900s, and its overall energetic activity has sizably increased, creating a frenzy of activity that continues to embarrass NASA’s official predictions.

VENUS: Venus is now glowing in the dark, as is Jupiter’s moon Io.

EARTH: In the last 30 years, Earth’s icecaps have thinned out by as much as 40 percent. Quite inexplicably, just since 1997 the structure of the Earth has shifted from being slightly more egg-shaped, or elongated at the poles, to more pumpkin-shaped, or flattened at the poles. No one at NASA has even bothered to try to explain this yet. Link to full article at NASA.

MARS: The icecaps of Mars noticeably melted just within one year, causing 50-percent changes in surface features. Atmospheric density had risen by 200 percent above previous observations as of 1997.

JUPITER: Jupiter has become so highly energized that it is now surrounded by a visibly glowing donut tube of energy in the path of the moon Io. The size of Jupiter’s magnetic field has more than doubled since 1992.

SATURN: Saturn’s polar regions have been noticeably brightening, and its magnetic field strength increasing.

URANUS: According to NASA’s Voyager II space probe, Uranus and Neptune both appear to have had recent magnetic pole shifts – 60 degrees for Uranus and 50 for Neptune.

NEPTUNE: Neptune has become 40 percent brighter in infrared since 1996, and is fully 100-percent brighter in certain areas. Also, Neptune’s moon Triton has had a “very large percentage increase” in atmospheric pressure and temperature, comparable to a 22-degree Fahrenheit increase on Earth.

PLUTO: As of September 2002, Pluto has experienced a 300-percent increase in its atmospheric pressure in the last 14 years, while also becoming noticeably darker in color.

My point? Well, if this is really due to the movement of our solar system, then I guess there would be no point in implementing the emissions bills and such. We really have no choice in the matter. We should be stock pilling sunblock, rubber boots, flashlights and batteries

That was posted before some time, a lot of it is crap, notice that the site looks questionable too ... It's also worth noting that global warming is just part of the problem of climate change, a process that we are at the very least accelerating.

I can't vouch for any other country, but here in Canada, the new conservative government has done crap about the environment and even backed out of the Kyoto accord, I wasn't too impressed by that.

That was posted before some time, a lot of it is crap, notice that the site looks questionable too ...

Yah, I'm not talking about the guy who owns the site, or the Ascension thing - but those particular bits of information seem to be accurate - as he does provide references to check into them (I probably should have before I posted, but hell, I've seen people post lots worse!)

Originally Posted by Tornado Joe

Yah, I'm not talking about the guy who owns the site, or the Ascension thing - but those particular bits of information seem to be accurate - as he does provide references to check into them (I probably should have before I posted, but hell, I've seen people post lots worse!)

Hehe, well I'll just use that Earth bit for an example. When you read the NASA article, there's a long technical description of how the Earth's gravitational field is changing, which isn't all that easy to comprehend in the first place... Now on the site, that somehow equates to "The Earth's structure has changed and is now more flattened at the poles". Well this was always the case, not just since 1997. Here's an excerpt from this atlas dating from 1972 that I use as a mousepad:

Equatorial diameter.......... 7,926.677 miles
Polar diameter................. 7,899.988 miles

So the planet was never egg shaped to begin with. This leads me to believe that most of the article is a collection of twisted facts and half truths.