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      Philosophy of Criticism

      After some thinking, I post this:

      Criticism is basically the center of the universe, in a way.

      Criticism is the only reason we all conform to each other.

      Criticism is the only thing the universe could really "expect" from us.

      Criticism is how we subconsciously judge all our actions, and it is what keeps me from adding the name of a random fruit into my self-published book.

      Criticism is all we really want from other people, in relationships and in general.

      If it were not for criticism, life would be so radically diverse in humans that we would probably effectively wipe ourself out. In that train of thought, does that make us along the lines of a hive mind?

      In that train of thought, what if every idea put forth by man deemed credible has only been for what we have experienced in our own culture. That is to say, if we meet aliens, they would be so different that we realize the term "hive mind" is such a huge flop in terms of defining how an entire species thinks, and is based purely off the fact that the aliens are communal, have minds, decide to link them and did this all separately from humanity.

      In that light, without comparing humans to another intelligent species, we can really never find out how special and unique we are, nor can we find out our potential.

      Likewise, we will never unite as a race until we meet another, because of our competitive nature.

      (Inserted comment) That is why I believe the first species we come in contact with will result in a war.

      Back to publishing books, nobody would write a book that nobody would read, and I mean nobody would read, including you. We would never develop relationships with something that was apathetic, and you truly knew it to be so. We apply human aspects to pet rocks to make us love them, but really, they are just a rock, and though you would feel bad if someone ripped up a little girl's teddy bear, it's just a collection of fibers.

      So, what do we live for if not for each other?
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      The meaning of life, the universe, and everything, is... critisicm?

      I'll think about it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vance View Post
      So, what do we live for if not for each other?
      According to your post, for criticism.

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      Lovely thought. Anything backing it up?

      * listens to the sound of nothing for a while... *
      "Man is least himself when he speaks in his own person. Give a man a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
      - Oscar Wilde

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      I think you can back it up with your thinking... I'm not Jung or anybody, I was just throwing this out there.


      Anyway, the only beings who can critisize is us, (at least so far) so I guess that you could say we live for each other, maybe? I have no idea, but at least in pop culture this is true...

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      When I said "anything backing it up?" I meant do you have any data that the universe expects criticism from us? And please don't mention do-it-yourself sociological experiments.

      Basically, you put up a lot of illogical, random statements with no explanation, then proceeded to follow that up with some theory you haven't explained whatsoever (or just really, really badly).
      "Man is least himself when he speaks in his own person. Give a man a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
      - Oscar Wilde

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      I was just tossing around the idea that basically everything is centered around our eyes. I mean seriously, I don't expect the rock to want me to critisize it, but if it wanted anything I think it would want to be appreciated.

      And it's not so much a theory as an abstract idea.

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      Abstract idea or not... I can't help but say that I'm highly critical of it.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Abstract idea or not... I can't help but say that I'm highly critical of it.

      Hahaha

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      A few days ago I talked about this with a friend.
      So far we don't know any intelligent species, at least there is none on the earth. So without us, there's nobody to give things any kind of value.
      We look at a natural phenomenon and find it mesmerizing, we appreciate the symmetry of patterns on butterfly wings etc.
      Soo.. maybe I wouldn't have called it "criticism" but it fits somehow. But I think your choice of words is a little off; like The Fishy said "the universe expects criticism from us"? Sounds strange...

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      Quote Originally Posted by zyna View Post
      So far we don't know any intelligent species, at least there is none on the earth.
      This is completely wrong, there are several.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      This is completely wrong, there are several.
      I think he means 'concious' species, which would explain things a bit.
      "Man is least himself when he speaks in his own person. Give a man a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
      - Oscar Wilde

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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      This is completely wrong, there are several.
      Sorry, if I didn't express that correctly, I'm not a native speaker, that's why I added the examples for what I meant to say. I do know that there are many intelligent species, but I wanted to say that as far as we know mankind is the only one who judges the environment in terms of what's interesting/fascinating, we marvel at things and want to know how things work and so on.

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      Criticism is only a tool imo. You can't define everything under criticism.. Anyway I don't think its the center of the universe and the only reason we conform to eachother, and the only thing the universe could expect from us. What about evolution and using your imagination for the creation of a better world.

      The rest of the post was interesting, and yeah I also think we live for eachother, but that has not much to do with criticism

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