Thread: What do you think is the best form of government?

Anarcho-Capitalism

Originally Posted by Elis D.

Anarcho-Capitalism

What is its views?

I suppose representative democracy is the most effiecient way to get groups of people's thoughts out. However, I dont think any of them are perfect.

Originally Posted by tkdyo

I suppose representative democracy is the most effiecient way to get groups of people's thoughts out. However, I dont think any of them are perfect.

Yea, but the topic says best out of them.

I voted rep. democracy. Best thing for individual rights, although even that is not perfect.

Fail to whomever voted military dictatorship.

What was the quote? "Democracy is the worst form of government; except for all the rest" or something?

Originally Posted by Sagea

I voted rep. democracy. Best thing for individual rights, although even that is not perfect.

Fail to whomever voted military dictatorship.

What was the quote? "Democracy is the worst form of government; except for all the rest" or something?

I'm between parliament, and rep. democracy.

The best form of government is me. If anyone else tries it. It usually fails.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

The best form of government is me.

Thats dictatorship.

Thats dictatorship.

When your talking about yourself. Dictatorship is a very good word.

Hint: Dictator of myself, government of myself.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

What is its views?

Anarcho.
Capitalism.

Why can't we all be good little boys and girls and live under anarchy. Everything could be free in stores. We could still keep safety protocols with benefit of the doubt (no one to enforce though)We could get along just fine, that is if everyone did the right things.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

Yea, but the topic says best out of them.

Which is why I voted rep. democracy. Like you I am between the two forms that are most common in western countries.

Originally Posted by NeoSioType

Why can't we all be good little boys and girls and live under anarchy. Everything could be free in stores. We could still keep safety protocols with benefit of the doubt (no one to enforce though)We could get along just fine, that is if everyone did the right things.

I'm not a little boy.

The truest form of government is a REAL democracy, not the fake democracies we have in the world today.

But the most efficient form of government is a benevolent dictatorship.

Originally Posted by Alextanium

The truest form of government is a REAL democracy, not the fake democracies we have in the world today.

But the most efficient form of government is a benevolent dictatorship.

Dictatorships have neither checks nor balances. A functioning country in a globalized world must be run by a gov. that has checks and balances.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Dictatorships have neither checks nor balances. A functioning country in a globalized world must be run by a gov. that has checks and balances.

I said most efficient. I didn't say you had to like it.

One person making the informed decisions leaves less faffing about for others.

Originally Posted by Elis D.

Anarcho.
Capitalism.

I looked it up, and it seemed pretty good from what I saw.

Is it a governmental philosophy, or a whole kind of government?

Its anarchism, therefore it's not a government, it would defeat the purpose of itself if it was.
It's a political philosophy, with aims to remove the state and have a completely unregulated free market.

I think a cross between rep democracy and parliamentary government would be best. I live in a democracy but voted parliament since England and Canada have us beat when it comes to most necessities.

Originally Posted by Elis D.

Its anarchism, therefore it's not a government, it would defeat the purpose of itself if it was.
It's a political philosophy, with aims to remove the state and have a completely unregulated free market.

What about the military, and justice system?

The provision of law enforcement, courts, national defense, and all other security services is by voluntarily-funded competitors in a free market rather than through compulsory taxation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_defense_agency

The provision of law enforcement, courts, national defense, and all other security services is by voluntarily-funded competitors in a free market rather than through compulsory taxation.

A free market? Then why are we still using oil and being so energy retarded and Dependant. I think there is more efficient ways to handle our energy use. That is obvious because countries like Iceland have already done it and benefited greatly from it becoming wealthy. So why isn't America doing the same thing, since it's suppose to be an example roll model thing. The oil dependency really sucks the wealth out of your country. That's not a free market that's a poor market.

I don't know in America but here in Australia it's aslo compulsory to have your money basically stolen under the name of a tax and used against your will for the most part. Atleast against my will. John Howard introduced GST. Which he promised would be something that would be impossible that he would never do. So he goes and does that and now we have not one tax. But a Tax, and then another Tax on top of it. The only way I can ever get my money back is by tax deductible transactions. But the GST makes this a thing of the past.

Anyway like I said. I like to keep things simple and just say. The best form of government is myself. And it's true isn't it? Like who is that not true for? Why is there even a debate on that.

A free market? Then why are we still using oil and being so energy retarded and Dependant. I think there is more efficient ways to handle our energy use. That is obvious because countries like Iceland have already done it and benefited greatly from it becoming wealthy. So why isn't America doing the same thing, since it's suppose to be an example roll model thing. The oil dependency really sucks the wealth out of your country. That's not a free market that's a poor market.

Well considering oil is still cheaper than alternative energy sources..... yes, it is a free market and yes it is working.

Welcome to economics 101.

Frankly I would favor to live in a country with direct democracy, not necessarily on every issue but there should be a system of accountability in government that directly involves the people being the dominant force, not just the people they elect.

I'm conflicted in my feelings about government, too. For one I think the government should be as tiny as possible but I think it should be able to afford to do the following:

Public Education, Police, Fire Department, Forest protection, etc... (standardly socialized things)
Social Security
Healthcare
A well trained and well equipped fighting force (I don't think it has to be all that huge, with dozens of air craft carriers floating around sucking money away)
College subsidies
Green transition subsidies

I'm pretty much with the idea that no central policy is the best policy, and that people manage their own lives a lot better than their supervisors. Managers and leaders should work more as coordinators or harmonizers. The USSR for instance tried to set up a universal business policy all industries had to follow and it collapsed because of individual needs. The only time I think its a good idea for a government to have a universal policy is during times of crisis such as terrorism from the perspective of the backwash or the Great Depression in the '30s. Hoover tried to have this policy in mind, aligned with Coolidge and Harding before him, that a completely hands off business government worked and so he refused to help the people through this crisis. Essentially what saved the people was a federal employment of much of the population for the government, a complete change in political and economic philosophy from the last decade. That's because every system has problems, if there was some economic policy in place then we would have had the economic boom of the twenties and once people maximized their purchasing power the government could take a step back and say, "Well it worked alright but once this crisis is over maybe we should try getting people on just one installment payment plan at a time."

And during this critical period we had a very socialist government, and it saved everybody. The government was giving people houses and buying excess crops and storing them. I voted for a communist state but I support a free-market, it's just I've studied Marx and nothing about his philosophy disagrees with a free market state. In fact, it's a completely free market, instead of the government or corporations making jobs, people make their own jobs. It's a system where a manager is not a rich aristocrat, simply a human being that found himself a qualified coordinator and his colleagues agreed. It's not like people all get paid exactly the same, people get paid based on the agreed worth of the work they put in. I think societies would naturally agree a surgeon should be paid more than a street sweeper because it requires training

There's a million reasons why this state wouldn't work, but that's why I wouldn't want it take place as a revolution where a dictator steps in in order to help the transition take place. I'd want it to take place in a democracy, slowly overtime as civilization advances to the point where its ready. Sure, small revolutions and periods of energetic reform are necessary due to the fact that inevitable little leech like men find lifestyles where their happiness becomes bent on the unhappiness of others and they need to get thrown out or removed. Aside from that though, I don't think a violent revolution could ever lead to a utopian government.