Discuss your thoughts without arguing.

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Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

If you cannot accept people and what they say without harassment in terms of telling them they are illogical or that what they said is not valid. Then you are off topic. With people such as myself out of context to this mentality. Any sort of negative confrontation or lack of co-operation is off topic illegal and alien to the thread.

Some may not like or agree with these guidelines. In which case you are simply not permitted and should go elsewhere.

By taking part in this thread you agree to these fundamental principles and thereby breaking this agreement makes you off topic and an offender.

*Only positive discussion and no insulting. No swearing.
*No asking questions about the persons personal beliefs.
*No ridicule of anyone.
*No skepticism of anything
*No disagreeing.
*No correcting spelling of other people.


You are not allowed to talk in terms of things not being true. You are not allowed to express things in terms of incorrect or wrong. You cannot put down anyones thoughts ideas or statements in a negative manner that makes them inferior to your own. You must always talk in terms of agreement with everyone.

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Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Hahaha. You are severely misinformed if you are genuinely thinking that.

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No, you are wrong, for I... Am... The Threadmaster.
erhmm.. excuse me...
I... Am... The Threadmistress!
Behold the amazing power of Geometry!
Exhibit A:
The Golden Ratio.

Get a hold of yourself man. Even if a bunch of joking pranksters with nothing better to do could possibly co-ordinate worldwide instantaneous seamless hudge patterns in the wheat over decades and decades without being detected with such precise calculations. (A lot of cases people saw it emerge in hours with no footprints or tracks leading to it). Its obvious anyone that has gone to see them that it's not people involved in making them. We know this already. You have missed the boat. We already know people can't make it. The frequencies of the energy within the designs have being measured with electromagnetic instruments. It's being measured and people have seen it emerge within their presence within hours.

You know nothing of what you are talking about. You have read nothing of value on the topic. This is why you still think you can tread on the wheat and make a crop circle that is the same as the genuine thing with the electromagnetic energy. It's not the designs are complicated. What I mean is they are very sophisticated models of reality expressed through geometrical symbolism.

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Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

You know nothing of what you are talking about.

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Ma'am/sir, I think you need to read the threadmaster's rules.

..models which I cannot explain, seeing as I don't actually know a thing about energy, electromagnetism or geometry.
I like pretty pictures.

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Ma'am/sir, I think you need to read the threadmaster's rules.

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:D

Hi Minerva, I heard you noticed my presence in here!
How's totalitarianism going for you?

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Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Even if a bunch of joking pranksters with nothing better to do could possibly co-ordinate worldwide instantaneous seamless hudge patterns in the wheat over decades and decades without being detected with such precise calculations.
We already know people can't make it. The frequencies of the energy within the designs have being measured with electromagnetic instruments. It's being measured and people have seen it emerge within their presence within hours.

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What do you mean instantaneous? Over the course of a period of time where people weren't watching them? Then yeah "instantaneous."

There is profit in fooling people into any retarded belief.

I believe that the electrical charge after the fact thing has been debunked. 1:32

Explain please? What do you mean. People measured it before the crops arose, and then afterwards they did arise? Were they watching when it happened then? Why didn't they video tape it or do anything to show proof?

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You know nothing of what you are talking about. You have read nothing of value on the topic. This is why you still think you can tread on the wheat and make a crop circle that is the same as the genuine thing with the electromagnetic energy. It's not the designs are complicated. What I mean is they are very sophisticated models of reality expressed through geometrical symbolism.

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Right because showing the opposition of insanity means I know nothing of what I'm talking about.

Refer to the video I showed you. 1:32 Things that are at higher ground attract higher electrical currents, something we know exists all around, ever been shocked before when touching something? Anything that is flattened will have different levels of current than things sticking in the air.

Please explain what you are talking about. Do you know what these sophisticated models are or are you just buying into what you're told?

We can leave earth, create bombs that utilize split atoms, and we can recreate hurricanes, one of natures strongest forces, but we can't make cool pictures in the grass?

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Originally Posted by Volcon

We can leave earth, creat bombs that utalize split atoms, and we can recreate hurricanes, one of natures strongest forces, but we can't make cool pictures in the grass?

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I love you! Hehe.

Do you get a kick out of denying reality before it's fully established in the mind of everyone. Once you have read the book by Freddy Silva, then atleast you will know some of the questions you are suppose to be debunking or if you already do. I will mention it here so you can answer them without avoiding them. Some not so bright might tag a long with you willingly because they like it and those uneducated excuses. To people who have researched in this field you look like a clown.

Minerva knows all.
All hail Minerva.

She particularly knows everything about physics and maths.

No need to insult and belittle us, thats against the thread rules, please leave and find another thread if you can't discuss nicely, why do you think we don't have the capabilities to create drawings in the grass? We created the great pyramid of giza, don't underestimate us.

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Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Do you get a kick out of denying reality before it's fully established in the mind of everyone. Once you have read the book by Freddy Silva, then atleast you will know some of the questions you are suppose to be debunking or if you already do. I will mention it here so you can answer them without avoiding them. Some not so bright might tag a long with you willingly because they like it and those uneducated excuses. To people who have researched in this field you look like a clown.

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So far I've shown things that completely refute what you say is evidence...then you turn around and say I'm not refuting the right evidence. Well doesn't that beat all. This is a worthless conversation if all you do is close your eyes put your hands on your ears and sing a tune.

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We can leave earth, create bombs that utilize split atoms, and we can recreate hurricanes, one of natures strongest forces, but we can't make cool pictures in the grass?

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To think that statement holds any value of intellectual proportion here in this subject would make you equal to almost monkey like thought forms. Before I would answer this poorly thought out comprehension of 'cool pictures in the grass'. More superior questions you first need to ask would involve why world poverty is an issue, "why we can't look after our planet" "why we have criminals and terrorists". "why people get raped and commit suicide everyday". Etc. But here you would rather instead jump straight to this silly question about crop circles simply to try and disprove it. One must be very shallow and unbalanced indeed to resort to such a lopsided use of their logic.

It is not cool pictures in the grass. Crop circles do not appear on grass. If you are not able to understand what it is, you will not be able to appreciate why you cannot imitate it.

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This is a worthless conversation if all you do is close your eyes put your hands on your ears and sing a tune.

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Yes that is what you do. You have not researched anything. Only those childish outdated videos that suit you prejudice you just found which are inferior to the proper ongoing research.

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Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Yes that is what you do. You have not researched anything. Only those childish outdated videos that suit you prejudice you just found which are inferior to the proper ongoing research.

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Right...I certainly didn't go to http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle when I was showing you that indeed a crop circle can be made with wood string and feet...Which is evidence that I was only using the "childish outdated videos" which are "inferior" yet you don't feel obliged to explain why they are inferior...

The explanation for the electrical differences CERTAINLY doesn't mean anything at all.

You haven't provided me with any reason to believe it is true. You've tried, and have not succeeded. All evidence has been refuted and you then say I'm not arguing against the right evidence, which you refuse to give (if such evidence exists.)

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Originally Posted by Volcon

No need to insult and belittle us, thats against the thread rules

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You and your thoughtless revengeful nitpicking groupies never agreed to the thread rules. So why do you want to use them now? Does this insult you? It is my beliefs that you are nitpicking, immature, and revengeful. But that does not mean I wish to insult you. It just means that's my view of your behavior. I'd lack integrity not to be honest and upfront about it.

I have simply expressed my beliefs on the subject. It is not what I consider belittling. Someone does look like a clown that has not bothered to research. that's just how it is.

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Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

I have simply expressed my beliefs on the subject. It is not what I consider belittling. Someone does look like a clown that has not bothered to research. that's just how it is.

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Researched and accepted bull shit are two different concepts...maybe you should try to think for once instead of mindlessly believing shit and then getting upset when you can't provide proof for what you believe.

Tell me something that proves what you believe instead of just saying "you wouldn't understand." That is what you have been doing when faced with questions of what you think.

Just to point out, how could I possibly research what YOU minerva believe without you first telling me? There are millions of stories followed by batshit crazy fuckwads who believe any number of things differently than you. On the occasions that you have told me what you believe, I researched that specific belief, and then refuted it. That is the only thing you can do when dealing with things that have millions of retarded fantasies dirived from them.

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Originally Posted by Volcon

we can recreate hurricanes, one of natures strongest forces

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:uhm:

I found a orb

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...g?t=1213651427

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Originally Posted by Universal Mind

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http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011220816

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Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

You and your thoughtless revengeful nitpicking groupies never agreed to the thread rules. So why do you want to use them now? Does this insult you? It is my beliefs that you are nitpicking, immature, and revengeful. But that does not mean I wish to insult you. It just means that's my view of your behavior. I'd lack integrity not to be honest and upfront about it.

I have simply expressed my beliefs on the subject. It is not what I consider belittling. Someone does look like a clown that has not bothered to research. that's just how it is.

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Yeah, sorry, i SHOULD have done more research before posting, made a mistake in assuming that i knew enough about it.

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Originally Posted by Volcon

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011220816

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That's about creating a mock hurricane about the size of a house. I thought you were talking about creating a hurricane hurricane.

Nono, recreate as in simulate, not make a full blown one, that would cause the doomsday nuts to have a damn coronary.

WTF Minerva! Where did your post go lol.

Demensions are just a concept. Length, width, and height make up space. Space itself is also a concept, something derived from the way we percieve reality. So demensions by themselves don't exist, but they are concepts to explain another concept known as space. I'm not even entirely convinced space itself exists the way we believe it to.

Sandform I wasn't done writing it lol. I can't believe your ready and online that quick waiting.

Ok I'm moving on from the crop circle orb subject. Maybe review it later. Volcon why such an amazing change in your attitude saying sorry and that you should have researched? Is this sarcasm? That post was not directed just at you but many here that were nitpicking. I was forced to say something that I would rather not say because of others behavior there. If you scan through this thread and see the varies meaningless posts nitpicking in spite you will see what I mean.


Something recently on my mind for a new subject. Remember that lesson in school where you were told that the first thing in dimensions was a dot and that didn't exist? Dimension 1 two dots with a line drawn together but still not enclosing space so it was said to still not exist. Then dimension two 4 dots drawn into a square. Still not existing because not enclosing space. But then miraculously a cube in the 3rd dimension. That one exists because it encloses space.

How do you get an existing dimension from dots that don't exists to lines from dots that don't exist to squares that don't exist. I think there is a problem here.

All of the physics is based on this assumption about the dimensions. If this much isn't clear there is a good chance a lot of the other stuff is in error because of this foundational problem.