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      Question to skeptics regarding ufo footage

      You says it's an obvious fake if it's a bright shiny clear image or film, you say it's fake when the camera man can't keep still or the image isnt crystal clear! So how the heck do we film what appeares to us as a UFO to suit the skeptics? How?

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      The idea is to identify the unidentified object; therefore we try to do just that as best we can. What are you trying to convince people of? Aliens? (not being an ass, just asking). While this is very remotely possible, it would require an immense amount of evidence supported by many. Even a video that is labeled as a UFO, that is in the strict definition, that in itself does not suggest aliens, just that we have not figured out what it is.

      Nobody is being skeptical over the idea that the object is unidentified; that is, until it is identified. You have to be more specific.

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      I do know what a UFO is jeeez, re-read the question and answer it.

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      I did smartass.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Never View Post
      I did smartass.


      LMAO ROFL!!!!

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      I think it was bigger than the sun, I hypothesize it was a celestial body of infinite size (Infinte for one side.) Also, I believe that its path was calculated based on probability (as you say, the speed of light isn't very fast. So, if we were to travel at high speeds, we would need to project our path towards the point which has the highest level of safety (since we do not have real-time data mapping the stars.) This path would have to be updated constantly as well.)
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      Quote Originally Posted by Never View Post
      The idea is to identify the unidentified object; therefore we try to do just that as best we can. What are you trying to convince people of? Aliens? (not being an ass, just asking). While this is very remotely possible, it would require an immense amount of evidence supported by many. Even a video that is labeled as a UFO, that is in the strict definition, that in itself does not suggest aliens, just that we have not figured out what it is.

      Nobody is being skeptical over the idea that the object is unidentified; that is, until it is identified. You have to be more specific.
      Agree 100%. No one argues that the object is unidentified, but rather that the object is aliens. There is nothing in any video presented thus far that rules out alternative explanations and preserves the "aliens did it" explanation.

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      You still haven't answered "how" we can film or take pics of a UFO without it being crystal clear and being called a fake or being too crap and being called a fake. I dont need a lecture on whether they are aliens or not.

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      A lot of the time, nobody questions that the unidentified objects are real. However, all of the time, people will question your lunatic theory that a blob of light is in fact a plasma based space cruiser taking a race of bovine creatures on a tour of our solar system, and not in fact a distant ferry on the horizon or some other vastly more plausible idea; if you don't offer any proof, that is.

      Have you got any proof or any convincing footage? Please show it to us if you do. In your next post.

      Be warned that failing to do so will classify you as a doublethinking douchebag. The choice is yours.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamhope11 View Post
      You says it's an obvious fake if it's a bright shiny clear image or film, you say it's fake when the camera man can't keep still or the image isnt crystal clear! So how the heck do we film what appeares to us as a UFO to suit the skeptics? How?
      We're not skeptical of UFO's, everyone knows UFO's exist obviously. We just don't believe they're green-skinned, bug-eyed aliens in the aircrafts. Most of the time the videos and pictures are blurry and shitty, and it could be anything. Sort of like the video of the lights in Nevada, or wherever the hell it was, people were like "ZOMG ALEEANZ!!!11" when in fact it was balloons with road flares attached to them. If we can't tell what it is, it's unidentifiable, but we're not going to jump to the conclusion that it must be a flock of E.T.s coming to take our bags of M&Ms.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      A lot of the time, nobody questions that the unidentified objects are real. However, all of the time, people will question your lunatic theory that a blob of light is in fact a plasma based space cruiser taking a race of bovine creatures on a tour of our solar system, and not in fact a distant ferry on the horizon or some other vastly more plausible idea; if you don't offer any proof, that is.

      Have you got any proof or any convincing footage? Please show it to us if you do. In your next post.

      Be warned that failing to do so will classify you as a doublethinking douchebag. The choice is yours.
      WIN.
      Last edited by nitsuJ; 10-29-2008 at 07:03 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamhope11 View Post
      You still haven't answered "how" we can film or take pics of a UFO without it being crystal clear and being called a fake or being too crap and being called a fake. I dont need a lecture on whether they are aliens or not.
      How about footage of a UFO from a few feet away, clearly showing that it's not just a mockup, and not being CG?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamhope11 View Post
      You still haven't answered "how" we can film or take pics of a UFO without it being crystal clear and being called a fake or being too crap and being called a fake. I dont need a lecture on whether they are aliens or not.
      A fake what? A UFO? An Alien spacecraft? A flying hotdog stand? I assumed you were talking about either A: UFOs, or B: Alien Spacecraft. I have answered this question. Proof of a UFO is self evident; photos of UFOs do not prove aliens. No need to get all pissy because you don't understand or refuse to understand the answer.

      Edit: To put it simply, a photo can be manipulated as can a video, but even were this not so, it makes the entire thing irrelevant.
      Last edited by Never; 10-29-2008 at 05:54 PM.

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      Film it in a way that clearly identifies the unidentified flying object.

      I could randomly flash my camera out the window and likely get a blur of a person and say, "See, that's my friend Bob" but you wouldn't know for certain. I am merely being presumptuous. You would need a clear and identifiable picture of Bob before you knew it was Bob.

      What's left after that is questioning editing of the footage. In this case, you would need to film it in a place in which we could also go to and see this object. Or, you could film it in such a way to remove possible editing possibilities (eg. with another skeptic, robot controlled camera, etc.)

      Of course, these are far too difficult for people to do for UFO's which is exactly why they live on..

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      It's funny how 'ufo' became synonymous to 'alien spacecraft' in some circles. All the photos alien-believers show are either unidentified objects that might be seagulls, things like a piece of dust on the camera. or photo-shopped.

      A picture in which you could actually see a certain craft, clear enough to see some details, might be a bit convincing. If it was taken by NASA, that is, because it isn't as if there aren't thousand of photoshopped 'alien spacecraft' photographs out there.

      Really, the question is why nothing but blurry photos are convincing evidence of alien civilizations that travel to our planet, to some. Or the question why not a single half-decent photo has been taken. I would say that last thing was a mystery. But it would only be a mystery if aliens actually came visit us every now and then. Under the current circumstances, there is nothing mysterious about a truckload of vague photos and video images, and not a single clear shot. Since every clear shot turns out to be a seagull, and every blurry shot goes into the 'alien', 'bigfoot' or 'loch ness' basket.
      “What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume

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      Red face Real Life Alien UFO Sighting

      Well one day I was camping and it was at night, I was walking back to my tent after a potentially dangerous incident with a wolf (turned out to be a hedgehog or something) anyway, I was gazing at the stars, and I saw a star, that suddenly started to move! It moved randomly, and moved so that it never intersected another star! (Which was very peculiar, since the alien vessel, or whatever it might be, would not need to "avoid" such stars (since it navigates in 3d space!)))

      This UFO was not like another satelite, because it did not follow a linear path of any kind. The path it followed was random and curved. I do not object to the possibility of it being a secret technological project from Earth, however, it seems to me quite clear that it was an alien vessel from a Flat, 2 dimensional, Universe.

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