Lol, not everyone thinks America is good. To be a terrorist, all you have to do is terrorize something. Some people might believe that we're terrorizing Iraq, or something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by spockman
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Lol, not everyone thinks America is good. To be a terrorist, all you have to do is terrorize something. Some people might believe that we're terrorizing Iraq, or something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by spockman
Ayers did injure somebody when trying to kill people when bombing the United States government. He also bombed the Pentagon. That is what he has in common with Bin Laden. Also, all of the points about, "Uh, it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with Obama," are what I was countering. Strong associations with terrorists who attack the United States are a very big deal. That is my point, and my analogy illustrated it.Quote:
Originally Posted by drewmandan
She did need to brush up on some things. I don't think it would have taken long. She is a genius and a great communicator with an excellent reputation as the governor of Alaska. But the McCain camp could have done much better in getting her ready. The McCain team could have done a lot better in a lot of areas. They sucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
If Obama has a lax attitude about Ayers' terrorism, then he should not have been elected. He has been elected, so I am not going to say he should not be president at this point, but I find it profoundly disturbing that somebody with such a lax attitude about terrorism could be elected president. I also don't know of what "context" could possibly justify what Ayers did. It was mindless hate that was meant to hurt very irrationally. It was despiccable. Ayers admitted that he was targetting innocent people, and he has yet to apologize for it. I want a president who hates his guts and everything he represents. Obama does not fit that description.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Ayers did not just bomb statues. He bombed the capitol building, the Pentagon, and NYC Police Headquarters, and he intended to kill. He did it to express hate toward the United States. That is not like some 15 year old vandalizing a statue. I'm glad you don't "necessarily" agree with it.
Ayers said way more than, "God damn America!" He called our country the "USKKK of A." He accused our government of inventing AIDS to kill black people. He blamed 9/11 on the victims. He said lots of horrible garbage. And Obama admits to going to that extremist church twice a month for twenty years. Only extremists go to extremist churches for 20 years. That is a huge problem. Also, when the nut Pfleger (white racist against white people) gave his awful pitch at the church, the congregation cheered him on and agreed with him. That means it is a racist church. There is no way Obama did not know that, and he was a regular member there who was supertight with the preacher. That whole picture of "context" is inexcusable, big time.
If McCain had gone to a white church where the white congregation was racist and the preacher called our country the "US Black Muslims of A", I think you would have had a big problem with it.
UM thinks Palin is a genius.
Great minds think alike.
Did anyone go to the Chicago rally? Anyone going to the inauguration?
http://www.fredmiranda.com/hosting-d...6Cold-Blue.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by drewmandan
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MWZHTJ...d.php?t=128204Quote:
She did need to brush up on some things. I don't think it would have taken long. She is a genius and a great communicator with an excellent reputation as the governor of Alaska.
Wow, wow. She really is a genius.
Stop argueing, obama is president and nothing is going to change it unless he gets asassinated, just four years (i think)untill you can argue all over again ;)
:lol: Oh my God, that's the video. I had trouble getting it to play last night, so I gave up and assumed it was one of her infamous interviews. I saw that Fox report. I think it is such a crock of shit. (Liberals are suddenly believing Fox News? :chuckle:) Some McCain workers have been trying to scapegoat Palin for the loss, and that is the junk they are talking. It is way too far fetched for me to believe it without some kind of evidence other than angry hearsay. However, IF it by some strange chance is true, then I admit that Sarah Palin is not qualified to be president of the United States, vice president of the United States, the mayor of Vaiden, Missisippi, a school teacher, or a high school graduate. I just find it so hard to swallow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
I wondered how long it was going to take Fox News to join the ranks of the "elite liberal media" once McCain lost and they started kissing Obama's ass (which a lot of Fox anchors have now started to do).Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
The Republican party is split into two factions at this point - those who believe Sarah Palin is the future of the party and those who blame her for McCain's loss.
She IS the reason he lost so badly, but at the same time he signed off on that decision so he is just as at fault for picking her dumb ass. If the Republicans choose to get behind her for a 2012 run (which I certainly hope they do), Obama is going to be a two-term President for sure barring any huge scandal or lackluster performance.
I once had a lot of respect for you because when you spoke about Iraq you seemed to know what you were talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
But what the fuck happened to you? The woman is a perfect example of why there needs to be an intelligence test before your name goes on a ballot for any kind of public office.
She thinks the earth is 6000 years old!
She was in a ceremony to have WITCHES removed from her body!
She doesn't support the use of fruit-fly for genetic research!
She was divisive and spoke hateful, borderline-racist garbage at her rallies.
Where was the genius in her plan to offend all the coastal cities by stating that the 'real Americans are in the heartland and small towns'?
She is a shining example of everything that is wrong with the US these days, and I would love it if she ran in 2012 (as 60-something% of registered Republicans would like) because that's a sealed deal win for 8 years of Obama.
Keep right on drinking that Kool-Aid though.
But Alex, she has alot of good foriegn policy experience. Keeping an eye on Russia and all... And whenever one of them came over we'd always ask, "Hey, watcha' doing over here?" And if they could give a good reason, well then alright. But if not, then well, we'd say, "Hey, get back on over there!"
I smell racism in here... so obvious...won't even call out names
I don't think Palin lost the election for him, she helped. But he voted with Bush 90% of the time, that's what lost him the election. He tried to distance himself from Bush as much as possible, but voting records don't lie.
"I just want to give McCain my full support."
"Uhh, thanks Gearoge. Umm, I have to go..."
"I want America to know where I stand."
"Wait, George..."
"A vote for John McCain is a vote for George W. Bush."
If all of that is true, which I really doubt, it means she is crazy, not stupid. Religion is the issue that makes Republicans irrational, and lots of them are brilliant. Sarah Palin might be a very religious Christian who believes the general ideas of Christianity's nuttiness, but don't tell me she is not intelligent. The idea that she is stupid is absurd. But keep drinking the left wing Kool-Aid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alextanium
Palin manipulating crowds:
If you go to thunderf00t's channel there's some more videos focused on Palin.
So it's OK to have a crazy person in office?Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
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Originally Posted by drewmandan
You misread my words again. I was talking about a hypothetical. Read my post again.
The craziness that comes in the form of religion is bad for personal liberties, but it fortunately doesn't affect a person's ability to handle economics and, in most cases, foreign policy. Obama and Biden are Christians too, so it's not like a vote against Palin was a vote against Christianity entering the executive branch. The religious lunacy has been there since the beginning of the country. Sarah Palin would not have been anything too new in that regard.
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
Deist founding fathers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundin...tates#Religion
Obama on public reason:
http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q...um=4&ct=title#
Palin...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sixDDLSN46s
More Palin...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9...eature=related
Get. Your. Head. OUT OF YOUR ASS.
In what way does that prove me wrong? I didn't say every person in the history of the U.S. federal government has been a Christian. I said the lunacy has always been in the executive branch, meaning it has always been represented by at least some of the people in there. Of course, I think religion is automatic lunacy. So what is your point? Get your head out of your ass so maybe you can finally start comprehending my posts. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by drewmandan
By the way, why are you such an asshole? How old are you? :?
Why do you think Palin is so smart?
I hope obama fails, i only feel this way due to spite tho.
Her education, her ability to make good points, her record in Alaska, and her articulation skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grod
lawlQuote:
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
Wow.
The CIA brought crack into the inner city, whats to doubt they brought aids?
Tested LSD on unknowing US Soldiers.
I'm not saying what Ayers did was right, but I will say this country has committed many atrocities.