Pornography: Who here has been a victim of it.

[IZ]

No this is not a joke, but a serious topic. Pornography is everywhere and it destroys character. And maybe you are some person who sees it as no big deal. But it does effect the way we live our lives and make our choices or even can make us feel ashamed by believing that you have broken a religious rule. Now I cant say that I myself am innocent. And I do not deny that I have never seen it or even enjoyed it. But we are humans with emotions that can become confused in this world and do foolish things. But one must conquer is mind and become stronger in mind. What are your views on pornography. Dont be shy.

[Gwendolyn]

Pornography is in the top ten of lowest forms of entertainment. Besides the fact that it is utterly demeaning and stupid, it just isn't ethical. It's also illegal. I'm not a religious person and morality has nothing to do with it, in my opinion. It's just a parade of low character.

[O'nus]

I am an animal. I am human. I try to give my primal nature more purpose with delusions of fate and life with culture, but, quintessentially, we are all still dependant on sex in order to survive. It's natural, and I think it is just plain stubborn to think low of anyone who likes sex. Yes, I have pornography, and there's nothing wrong with that.. sheesh.

[KalmaH]

Originally posted by O'nus I am an animal. *I am human. Exactly what I would have said. As long as you don't become obsessed or a rapist or something like that I see nothing wrong with it.

[Dracco2.5]

I can say without a doubt in my mind that as far as porn goes.... well there's more bad than good. I'm not for it. I'm just sickend by it.

[O'nus]

Originally posted by Dracco2.5 I'm not for it. I'm just sickend by it. I am curious; if you find sex or pornography disgusting, what about children? Having children? Since sex is the key to survival, these questions arise then if you find the perpetuation of our species to be "immoral". It's no wonder so many neurotical hysteria is sexually related; we are cultured animals, we have the same instincts as any animals: eat, shit, pay taxes, fuck, and die. What is sick about finding the opposite gender attractive? Is it not "cute enough"? You can't seriously say that you have never had any sexual fanatsies, because you know that is not true. You also can't seriously say that you have never been attracted to someone. What is disgusting about pornography? Is it immediately associated with hardcore, disrespectful, or masochistic and pedophile thoughts? Why immediately associate so many ill-thoughts to such a good thing? People who are in love have sex all the time. Maybe I need to get laid.. *Shrugs* ~

[Alric]

I am sure everyone has heard this before but its true so I will repeat it. Anyone who says they never looked at pornography before is lieing. That goes for girls too and it goes double for people who have the internet.

[Gwendolyn]

I do not think that sex is disgusting and I am not challenging your worth as a person, O'nus. Please do not think that. I merely think that the kind of Porn on the net is a giant exploitation of sex. We all have our own opinions. Your opinion O'nus is just as valid as any, and I commend you for having an opinion

[Taosaur]

Porn creates jobs, therefor porn is good for America More seriously, I'm pro naked people, pro physical intimacy, and anti-porn. Some of it seems innocent enough--some college girl clicking her own mouse on a webcam doesn't hurt anybody, I guess. But most of it is pretty sadistic, and has very little to do with healthy sex. I mean, the facial? This is the standard finale in any contemporary porn movie, and it is all about humiliating the woman. I'm all for opening up in loving intimacy or simple mutual gratification, but internet porn is all about being closed, being calloused, being hard. It's one big, sick, revenge fantasy aimed at all the ex-girlfriends of the world. It would be great if people were making more movies integrating positive sexuality with other aspects of human life, but to zero in on just sex, then break that down into all these ritualized fetish acts? It cheapens our culture. I won't even go into what it does to people caught up in the industry.

[McGoo]

I agree with O'nus 110%, pornography is a natural extension of our human need for sex. I can understand perhaps ignoring normal sexual desire because of religious beliefs but that's all it is, ignoring what should be natural. Allthough that is commonplace in many major religions. Saying porn isn't ethical/is disgusting is an opinion, saying porn is "violent" is a generalization, and saying porn is illegal is just a fallacy.[/quote]

[LewisM]

I am pro-porn. I know of the arguments that pornographers and porn companies are exploiting what our society deems sick fantasies, or are degrading to women, and I think these are valid points. However that does not deter me. There are a lot of things in this world that are dangerous, but I don't think it is worth abolishing something as pleasing to the eye such as porn, to save the few that become perverted or addicted (Id like to add that I am not pro-everything. For example, I believe smoking, at least in public or cigarettes in general should be illegal). Then there is the matter of pornography that is directly aimed at exploiting sick fantasies... aggressive stuff... snuff. I don't really know what to say here, but know that I don't like this stuff, however I don't care what other people do with it. Another question to raise is whether or not young ones (such as myself) should be exposed to porn, like I am.

[Neil]

I have quite strong views on this. There is nothing wrong with porn. As has already been said, we are humans. We need to eat, we need to urinate, we need to sleep, and we need to ejaculate. It is cretinous to attach morality to masturbation. Having said that, it is much better to be in a loving relationship and to share intimacy with your partner. But realistically, many of us are single and need to fulfill this urge with the help of a magazine. I do understand the issues people have with it. Some people become addicted to sex, just as some people are addicted to food or money. It is unhealthy to dedicate your life to any of these base impulses. I have some friends who spend all their money buying clothes and working out and trying to have sex. I see sex as merely a distraction from our real goals in life. Just to reiterate: It is cretinous to attach morality to masturbation

[Gwendolyn]

What about child pornography? Come on....One reason I am against porn altogether is because of this. Children who were used for some sick pervert's amusement? How could anyone agree with this. That is not what I would call a natural thing. Intimacy, sex, masturbation is all healthy, but the exploitation of women and children is certainly not, in my opinion. That is not to say I am going to judge anyone's character by this, but I just don't believe it it a good thing.

[Neil]

Hang on, I think you are confused. Child pornography is not normal pornography. Any children involved are obviously being abused. Adults who choose to get their breasts out in a magazine for lots of money are not being abused. I get aggrivated when people confuse issues like this. This topic was supposed to be about pornography, not the culture of pornography. I drink coca cola. I like the taste. If a certain percentage of retailers has bad managers who treats its employees badly, I will not stop buying coca cola. At the most, I would buy coca cola from a reputable company who treats its workers well. The product of pornography itself is not evil, but the way it is made can be. So to say that pornography in principle is bad due to exploited workers is fallacious and silly, as it is nonsensical.

[Death-Wuad]

Why is it that everybody always assumes its the women who are demeened? Why not say- men are being viewed as sex toys on t.v's! When I call some girl a babe, I get slapped. When some girl calls me a stud, am I supposed to take that as a compliment? Seriously though, I really don't think porn is immoral or anything, but when you have 12 year kids, then it's just plain wrong. There is a reason why nambla (north american man boy love association) doesn't get what it wants- kids know hardly anything about about love and sex. To exploit them is completely immoral and you should be castrated if you do.

[IZ]

Sex is natural, yes, but porn is a man-made fantasy. Pornography depicts wemon as sexual objects. Yes, its a beautifull thing, ( A womans body) But to the extent of herself being used to the amusement of men is not right. And Porn also makes people believe that all wemon just want to have sex all the time and thats all they are good for in this world. But the point I want to make is that Sex is a passion that lovers have, but porn just converts Sex into a fun and pleasurable thing thats changes our way of thinking that this is the way sex should be. And I'm with Taosaur with the humiliating woman, with facials and what not. Making them smile for the camera, Seems as if they were only thinking of the money that they would get paid with. Oh and Child Pornography, its just out of my time right now. But this is what happens when you take a step into the porn world. A pervert is created.

[Neil]

Your opinion that pornography is immoral has no actual weight to it does it? Why have such baseless opinions? Pornography may degrade women but it is their choice to take this job. While it is true that some women stoop to this profession because they are very poor, there are labour laws that ensure that people are treated fairly in all types of employment. Thats like saying in the 18th Century, "I hate coal because miners get dirty and sometimes get carbon minoxide poisoning." They may well do, but you can't criticise an object itself based on the way the object is obtained. Also, we are talking about the practise of viewing pornography, not the rights and wrongs of of filming it. If you disagree with me, please reply with a logical explanation as to why I am wrong. Its all very nice to state one's opinions but is very worrying when people have opinions with such little actual reasoning behind them. This is the philosophy forum. 8)

[Gwendolyn]

Originally posted by Neil I have quite strong views on this. There is nothing wrong with porn. As has already been said, we are humans. We need to eat, we need to urinate, we need to sleep, and we need to ejaculate. It is cretinous to attach morality to masturbation. Having said that, it is much better to be in a loving relationship and to share intimacy with your partner. But realistically, many of us are single and need to fulfill this urge with the help of a magazine. I do understand the issues people have with it. Some people become addicted to sex, just as some people are addicted to food or money. It is unhealthy to dedicate your life to any of these base impulses. I have some friends who spend all their money buying clothes and working out and trying to have sex. I see sex as merely a distraction from our real goals in life. Just to reiterate: It is cretinous to attach morality to masturbation Yes, but child pornography is a part of pornography altogether, and of course they are being abused, but it is still pornography.

[Death-Wuad]

2 aliens come to planet earth. One of them eats Human babies, and the other Helps human babies. Does this mean that all aliens are inherintly evil?

[simisu]

i think we're better off with porn then without it! if somehow all porn would magically disappear and no one would make any more... and there will be no whores to service the men... well... you'd have a massive rape wave all over the world! it's pretty extream but i do think that porn serve's a purpose... now... on the other hand i wouldn't like my future kids to be exposed to it (untill their old enough...) and i think that parents today should be aware of this problame! it's all about good education! i've watched enough porn in my life to the point that i no longer enojy it at all... all i see is how fake it is and it makes me sick... but it has a right to exist... there's some good in it and alot of bad you just got to know how to approach it and treat it (that's why kids are better off without it ti'll they know what's what!)

[KalmaH]

Originally posted by Gwendolyn Yes, but child pornography is a part of pornography altogether, and of course they are being abused, but it is still pornography. Child pornography is not pornography at all. In normal porn, as it's been said by other people in this forum, everyone (including women) CHOOSE to be in these films. They know the consequences of their actions or at least they should. In any case they get paid a ton of money so there is NO expliotation. Child pornography IS exploitation. It's sick! The children involved in this have no idea what is happening, and I doubt they see a single penny. In any case it might be the parents that see the money and if this is the case the parents should be hanged... with a powerline so they are being electocuted while they are hanged... all inside a gas chamber. Same goes to any adult that has anything to do with child porn.

[CT]

Originally posted by Gwendolyn+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gwendolyn)</div> <!--QuoteBegin-Neil I have quite strong views on this. There is nothing wrong with porn. As has already been said, we are humans. We need to eat, we need to urinate, we need to sleep, and we need to ejaculate. It is cretinous to attach morality to masturbation. Having said that, it is much better to be in a loving relationship and to share intimacy with your partner. But realistically, many of us are single and need to fulfill this urge with the help of a magazine. I do understand the issues people have with it. Some people become addicted to sex, just as some people are addicted to food or money. It is unhealthy to dedicate your life to any of these base impulses. I have some friends who spend all their money buying clothes and working out and trying to have sex. I see sex as merely a distraction from our real goals in life. Just to reiterate: It is cretinous to attach morality to masturbation Yes, but child pornography is a part of pornography altogether, and of course they are being abused, but it is still pornography.[/b] Thats like saying snuff movies are a part of movies alltogether.

[Alric]

Yea porn degrades men just as much as it degrades woman. Or do you think men chose to be in porn while woman are forced into it for them money? Now that is degrading statement

[Lowercase Society]

Just so everyone can hear...er...read my opinion on porno: THE STORY LINES SUCK, they are so freaking cheesy. Wouldn't you all agree.

[IZ]

I'm sorry if I offend anyone in any way, you can even ban me or even cause my name to look bad. But if you think that porn is a good thing than you are a corrupted soul.