"Why do I like boys?"

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Originally Posted by ClouD

i'm not fighting any urge!

just saying that if i can make that choice, what is stopping others?

it seems more a limitation than a benefit.

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No, but like them your sexuality is different than someone else's and you think everyone's sexuality must be like yours.

When I was in high school I really wanted to be straight and I tried really hard to even just like women, I didn't care if I was still attracted to guys, I just wanted to like women so I could lead a heterosexual life. I spent countless hours trying to like women and it never happened.

What is stopping others? Other people aren't like you. We can't find a bowl of snot sexually appealing.

i'm saying i think that's a limitation and not a benefit.

sexuality is labels for preference, not a limitation on free will. (or if you will, 'definition' for preference -- let's not argue semantics)

i can choose to enjoy celery, or to not enjoy it, saying that i don't have a choice whether to like it seems a great way to shift responsibility. sort of like that idea of god existing.

just a change in perspective. you can change likes/dislikes through hypnotherapy too.

it's not ZOMGIMPOSIBBLESESES

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Originally Posted by ClouD

it's not ZOMGIMPOSIBBLESESES

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Maybe for you it isn't. But for me it is. Trust me, my parents sent me to a shrink for quite a while to turn me straight. Didn't work.

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I have a question for Maeni though, are you just not attracted to older guys (your age or older I mean) at all?

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I think he likes girls Sandform ;)

shrink and hypnotherapy aren't always so synonymous

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Originally Posted by ClouD

i'm saying i think that's a limitation and not a benefit.

sexuality is labels for preference, not a limitation on free will. (or if you will, 'definition' for preference -- let's not argue semantics)

i can choose to enjoy celery, or to not enjoy it, saying that i don't have a choice whether to like it seems a great way to shift responsibility. sort of like that idea of god existing.

just a change in perspective. you can change likes/dislikes through hypnotherapy too.

it's not ZOMGIMPOSIBBLESESES

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Of course, how could I not have seen it. Being gay, straight, or bi, is just like believing in God. Everyone can enjoy any kind of food just by wanting to. And everyone who is gay or straight or bi was first labeled that and that is why they now follow what those words describe.

I never argued that labels are meant to be a limitation. What you don't get is that your label changes whenever you change. When I get old and my hair turns grey (although if I have my dads genetics that wont happen) I'll be a grey haired guy instead of a brown haired guy. But there are some labels that never change. For example, if my hair never turns grey, I'll still be brown haired. If I never lose my arms I'll never be armless. If I keep my eyesight I wont be blind. Just because your label is like an etch-a-sketch doesn't mean everyone else's is. I'm not even really sure why you call it a label, like being green eyed is a "label."

As for hypnotism, no offense but even mythbusters busted that BS.

I don't know the name for grey haired people. Brunette, blonde, etc.

@rak and maeni, lul that is my bad, I meant girls.

hypnotism busted by mythbusters lmao...
hypnotherapy is accepted medically. /fin

and the god comment was relating to shifting responsibility.

pepepepe

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Originally Posted by ClouD

hypnotherapy is accepted medically. /fin

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Past life regression. /fin

But I'll go on.
Tests that prove it doesn't help memory at all.
The various studies that prove it provides false memories.

fucking, i'm so not arguing the validity of hypnotherapy.

you're such a nit picker too!

ClouD, I find it really strange that you can change your sexuality like that. You sure you arent just pretending, or consciously trying really hard to find the good parts about these things? Could you induce a boner by making yourself sexually attracted to any random object? If you can, that's awesome - But I can't.

And as for the labels... If my sexuality changes, I'll rip off the label and put a new one on.
I don't really understand your fight about these labels.

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Originally Posted by Sandform

I have a question for Maeni though, are you just not attracted to older girls (your age or older I mean) at all?

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I haven't always been exclusive, as in, I've been able to find both adults, teenagers and children sexually attractive.

But nowadays, I find children to be the most, and then teenagers a slight bit, and adults not at all.

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Originally Posted by Maeni

I haven't always been exclusive, as in, I've been able to find both adults, teenagers and children sexually attractive.

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I used to be able to jerk off to woman when I was young because it was the first piece of porn I'd ever come across. So just the fact that it was sex was enough to turn me on. But as we grow in our sexuality, I think we find out our preference.

I haven't jerked off to women in a verrrrrrry long time. Hehe.

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Originally Posted by Maeni

ClouD, I find it really strange that you can change your sexuality like that. You sure you arent just pretending, or consciously trying really hard to find the good parts about these things? Could you induce a boner by making yourself sexually attracted to any random object? If you can, that's awesome - But I can't.

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Haha oh god I can do that too. ClouD and I are exactly alike :P

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Originally Posted by Marvo

Haha oh god I can do that too. ClouD and I are exactly alike :P

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You can find anything sexually attractive? You could enjoy sex with a zebra or a decaying corpse? You could enjoy it thinking about the objects in question? Like...OH yes, OH YES! you hairy zebra, check out those stripes, oh yes, your rear end is so warm and tight, oh yeah, ZEBRA SEX! Or, oh yes, check out those maggots, yes oh maggots. DECOMPOSING BODYYYYY! You could enjoy it to the same extent you enjoy anything else? Could you find an infant attractive?

Can you also not find something attractive? If a hot guy or girl crosses your path you could find them equally unappealing as a 500 pound gorilla? This seems to be at odds with the vast number of teenage boys who have an erection when exposed to exposed boobies and just can't seem to make it go away unless they think of something other than boobies or the boobies go away. In some cases it only goes away when the boobies go away, regardless of if they try to think of something else.

I find it hard to understand this mentality since I have tried to find something unappealing attractive, and not even something as absurd as bestiality, and failed.

It isn't so much that I don't imagine it is possible, it is just that I know for a fact that it doesn't apply to everyone (since it doesn't apply to me). For the majority of people I have met, as well, this ability is not present.

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Originally Posted by Sandform

You can find anything sexually attractive? You could enjoy sex with a zebra or a decaying corpse? You could enjoy it thinking about the objects in question? Like...OH yes, OH YES! you hairy zebra, check out those stripes, oh yes, your rear end is so warm and tight, oh yeah, ZEBRA SEX! Or, oh yes, check out those maggots, yes oh maggots. DECOMPOSING BODYYYYY! You could enjoy it to the same extent you enjoy anything else? Could you find an infant attractive?

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Are you really enjoying it at this moment? Or are you forcing a feeling that doesn't belong in the first place? Because attraction and the emotions and the feeling that comes along with it, are more natural rather than something fabricated. Forcing a feeling isn't really a true feeling, you're just trying to convince yourself consciously of a feeling that your subconscious doesn't agree with, which means it's unreal anyway. Just a thought. :P

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Originally Posted by Sandform

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If you consider something "unappealing" I don't see how it could be appealing at the same time.

That is the dis-ability, imo.

Really, we're all just talking shit though, no?
It's all about semantics of free will blah blah blah, that anything could be a choice, and I'm not about to argue nature vs nuture like a youtubefag watching bestiality, which isn't really what this thread was about in the first place.
It's about why boys are attractive, looking for some 'nature'-side reasons, even though that is hypocritical of me.

Depends whether you like androgenous boys or muscle-ridden boys.

If you like androgenous I guess you could argue that they remind you of chicks.

If they're muscular you could argue that you're attracted to the image of 'a provider' and the alpha male.

Or, maybe, you like ugly muscle-y women, too.

I haven't ever really thought of any guys as sexually attractive, though i joke around. I think that a straight man can find one guy they are attracted to, but not sexually attracted.

Why does anyone give a damn about what other people like or don't?
Just do what you want - but if you harm someone or abuse someone, then the law should blast your sick brains out.

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Originally Posted by Jeff777

This thread would be funnier if a catholic priest started it.

Edit: nn, you're into boys?

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+100

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Originally Posted by ClouD

What is it about them?

The familiarity? Sense of commonality?
The innocence?
Not having to say much? Understanding without words?
Common ground in gender, in existence?

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Maybe the fact that they are care free..simple. Just guessing that might have a psychological attraction, desiring to be around what you mentioned is completely normal, except manifest in children. But I'm sure if you wait around long enough you will find a girl that will share those sort of attributes. If you find that you like boys more than girls, whatever. Do what ever makes you happy man, that's my advice.

Oh my, this thread.

Marisa, Marisa tasukete Marisaaaa~
I'm just thinking.
Don't mind me.

I know why I like boys. Many reasons for that, the most important ones being: quick sexual development, playing with male cousins too much, getting a 'no' from a girl too early.

I like boyish boys, not manly ones. Not really because they remind me of chicks, but because they look younger. I think society and raising managed to put the dislike for males in me partly. I also dislike crossdressers for the matter.

That said, I'm kinda bi-curious about girls.

So Kromoh and ClouD are boylovers?

I thought I was the only one here before I found this thread.

8 - 14 years old

I love them in every way possible.

Hah I prefer them older. Anywhere from 12-17. Might sound normal, but I've always like boys younger than me; as I aged, so did my likes.

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Originally Posted by Kromoh

Hah I prefer them older. Anywhere from 12-17. Might sound normal, but I've always like boys younger than me; as I aged, so did my likes.

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As normal as being sexually attracted to 12 year old children may sound, it's not :(.

No it is not. Be very very careful. Admitting to being a "failed creation" may lead to you being labeled a child molestor. :roll: