What do you think is the best form of government?

**Dreamworld** · 05-20-2008 12:52 AM

Here is some info, in case you do not know some of the governments listed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state (China)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy (U.S.A) (India)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_monarchy (Australia, Japan, UK)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_republic (Britain) (India)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship (Thailand, Somalia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy (Saudi Arabia, Iran)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism (North Korea)

The results of this poll, will be used for a secret purpose.

Post your reasoning for your answer.

**Bearsy** · 05-20-2008 01:52 AM

Anarcho-Capitalism

**Dreamworld** · 05-20-2008 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Elis D.

Anarcho-Capitalism

What is its views?

**tkdyo** · 05-20-2008 02:07 AM

I suppose representative democracy is the most effiecient way to get groups of people's thoughts out. However, I dont think any of them are perfect.

**Dreamworld** · 05-20-2008 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by tkdyo

I suppose representative democracy is the most effiecient way to get groups of people's thoughts out. However, I dont think any of them are perfect.

Yea, but the topic says best out of them.

**Sagea** · 05-20-2008 02:39 AM

I voted rep. democracy. Best thing for individual rights, although even that is not perfect.

Fail to whomever voted military dictatorship.

What was the quote? "Democracy is the worst form of government; except for all the rest" or something?

**tkdyo** · 05-20-2008 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

Yea, but the topic says best out of them.

Which is why I voted rep. democracy. Like you I am between the two forms that are most common in western countries.

**Bearsy** · 05-20-2008 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

What is its views?

Anarcho.
Capitalism.

**Dreamworld** · 05-20-2008 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Elis D.

Anarcho.
Capitalism.

I looked it up, and it seemed pretty good from what I saw.

Is it a governmental philosophy, or a whole kind of government?

**Bearsy** · 05-20-2008 03:04 PM

Its anarchism, therefore it's not a government, it would defeat the purpose of itself if it was.
It's a political philosophy, with aims to remove the state and have a completely unregulated free market.

**DeathCell** · 04-08-2009 06:32 PM

A new form.

A combo pack.

Capitalism/Socialism/Democracy.

**Posquant** · 06-23-2009 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by DeathCell

A new form.

A combo pack.

Capitalism/Socialism/Democracy.

Basically, that's what China is aiming at... and whatever else they are, they are excellent students and critics of their own work.

See Hu Jintao in the snowed-in trainstation in Guangzhou a few years ago... apologizing for the mess. Compare G. Bush, 2 years earlier, congratulating FEMA on its good work in NOLA.

PQ

**Universal Mind** · 06-23-2009 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by DeathCell

A new form.

A combo pack.

Capitalism/Socialism/Democracy.

I love it. I get to vote, have lenient bosses who don't give a shit, AND take other people's money... until they stop generating money because they quit giving a shit too. When can I get my first robbery check?

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

All dictatorships are benevolent in the eyes of the dictator.

I disagree. I think a dictatorship is nothing to a dictator but power. They know that genocide and selfish aggression are evil, and they don't care.

**DeathCell** · 06-23-2009 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I love it. I get to vote, have lenient bosses who don't give a shit, AND take other people's money... until they stop generating money because they quit giving a shit too. When can I get my first robbery check?

You missed my point. Socialism, would be for medicine. That way we don't have so many people filing bankruptcy when they get hit with medical bills.

**Posquant** · 06-23-2009 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I love it. I get to vote, have lenient bosses who don't give a shit, AND take other people's money... until they stop generating money because they quit giving a shit too. When can I get my first robbery check?

You're rightly reacting against stupidity, not hi-level economics or politics. Actually, you're rightly reacting against the fact that the stupidity is programmed, procured... not accidental. Really, you go to the heart of our politics and economics.

Guns or butter? Textbooks, or bullets? What will the public provide?

What does the concensus decide (if it does)? Does it? Why?

The people that pay your bosses do so in exchange for something. They do so freely. Free of compulsion. But that doesn't exhaust the possibilities. You think they're being cheated. They are too dumb to know better. Manipulated. Your product a lie.

And...beneath it all... it's intended that way. An intentional accident. Elegant, in that trivial way... to them. Those of them that tend to that.

Your clients were, ab initio, programmed not to notice the lie. Your bosses themselves may not notice. Blame them if you can. Who taught them logic? Formal critical thinking? Method. Who taught you, that didn't need to?

But you do notice.

Now what?

pq

**Catbus** · 06-23-2009 10:42 PM

As long as it's the workers controlling production, then I'm happy. Call it whatever strain of socialism you like, I want nothing more and nothing less. I'm not down with communist states, or centralized socialism for that matter, as I think socialism needs to come from below (i.e. the working class) instead of from above (i.e. Hugo Chavez). Direct democracy is also an important aspect, as the community should have the final say in what and how much their factories produce, and how much resources the factories get to produce said goods.

**DrunkenArse** · 06-24-2009 10:46 PM

Libertarian Socialism

It is perhaps best summed up Chomsky

"There is no reason to accept the doctrines crafted to sustain power and privilege, or to believe that we are constrained by mysterious and unknown social laws. These are simply decisions made within institutions that are subject to human will and that must face the test of legitimacy. And if they do not meet the test, they can be replaced by other institutions that are more free and more just, as has happened often in the past."

"The most effective way to restrict democracy is to transfer decision-making from the public arena to unaccountable institutions: kings and princes, priestly castes, military juntas, party dictatorships, or modern corporations."

And my favorite. I couldn't find it so i'll paraphrase.

I think that it only makes sense to identify authoratarian and coercive institutions and to challenge them. If a justification cannot be given for their existence, then they should be dismantled to increase the scope of human freedom.

Of course my choice isn't on the list because it doesn't get talked about in school.