parties in politics...

[lucidspark64]

I'll try to rant my opinion while trying not to dis anyone... here it goes... I have nothing against America, I'm just concerned about somethings "...one nation indivisible" SO... why do we have this political party crap that which divides the American people. Turn on Fox news or MSNBC. Listen to how they try to persuade you that they are right and how the democrats or republicans are messing everything up. "Those liberals!" "Those conservatives". And then we assume everything they say is ok. It's good enough to be on t.v., it must be true...right? The way I see it, it's a game. Competition. Strong believers of each party refuse to hear out anything the other person has to say and try to prove that they are right. That they are right about everything that is politics. But, let's say they are right about something, well they aren't in the opposing views. It's "oh this and that you are wrong as usual". I say why do we let some label tell us what to think? We are entitled to our own opinion, use that to your advantage. Let's not vote on whose white or whose black or whose giraffe or whose a big faith believer, or because the other guy has a bad comb over. We have the freedom to think for ourselves. Don't let the media garbage control your head. I would actually recommend CNN because they don't seem to have a side and they seem to be really asking questions about some of the few things that matter.

[Kiza]

I'm just wondering, but what are you suggesting here? That we abolish all political parties? That the Democrat and Republican parties be merged?

[Catbus]

I don't think there's anything wrong with parties, it's when they let sectarian bullshit get in the way of progress that bothers me. The Paris Commune always comes to mind when I think about parties (or ideologies), just because it's an example of both orthodox Marxists and anarchists working together for the good of the community. Granted, Marxists and anarchists aren't complete extremes, and both share similar goals, but still, the point remains.

[Xei]

Oh dear...

[Lord Bennington]

I'm with Catbus. Parties aren't inherently bad, but Republican vs. Democrat politics in America have nothing good to offer. Or, at least, they have more bad than good. It's always been that way, since Jefferson was elected. They interfere with politicians making the right choices, they create mob tactics among the people who are supposed to be making clear-minded choices. And, an interesting point to make is that there really is no such thing as a popular left-wing politician anymore. Even the so-called liberals don't match up with actual liberal politics. They tend to be more moderate than anything. Just an opinion, "left" Democrats aren't actually being that liberal.

[DrunkenArse]

I agree. A few years ago, I coined the phrase Republicrat and I'm sticking to it. An english political scientist - forget his name - put it the best. Somebody was trying to get him to justify the united states policies towards cuba and he comes back with: "You know, Americans are always so quick to come down on one party systems but what most Americans don't realize is that America itself has a one party system. It's just that, in their typical extravegance, they have two of them." I would like to see, at the very least, the libertarians and greens getting a significant amount more votes than they do.

[Alric]

Personally I hate both. People are right, they are the same party. Their both pro large government, their both for spending money we don't have, and their both pro interfering with every other country in the world.

[ninja9578]

Parties suck, neither one is 100% right 100% of the time. I associate myself as liberal, but I wouldn't be caught dead registering as a democrat. Democrats complain to much about what's wrong, but do nothing to fix it, whereas the republicans complain about what's right and try to break it. You mentioned Fox News and MSNBC. I don't mind MSNBC as much because they admit that they are liberal news. The reason people hate Fox News so much is because their advertisements say that they are fair and balanced. What's the slogan in your local area? Here it's "We report, you decide." lol.

[Xei]

A few years ago, I coined the phrase Republicrat Prrretty sure you didn't.

[DrunkenArse]

I knew someone was gonna say that. I've never heard it before. who beat me too it?

[Xei]

No idea but there's about 65,000 results on Google for it.

[DrunkenArse]

fuck. It's a good and easy idea I suppose. I always forget about googling for ideas I come up with At any rate, this is as good a thread as any to come out of the closet as a republican. I support legalization of marijuana, gay marriage and fiscal responsibility. All three of those are core planks in the republican party, right?

[Xaqaria]

In Soviet Russia, Party finds You! This was the first thing I thought of when I read the title, sorry.

[lucidspark64]

Parties suck, neither one is 100% right 100% of the time. I associate myself as liberal, but I wouldn't be caught dead registering as a democrat. Democrats complain to much about what's wrong, but do nothing to fix it, whereas the republicans complain about what's right and try to break it. You mentioned Fox News and MSNBC. I don't mind MSNBC as much because they admit that they are liberal news. The reason people hate Fox News so much is because their advertisements say that they are fair and balanced. What's the slogan in your local area? Here it's "We report, you decide." lol. one of our local fox stations changed their name to CW (this is in san diego) and they claim they are "fair and balanced" or "no bias no bull" (i forgot who said the bias one, i think CW) but thats probably just redemption because they know how awfully bias they are. CW doesnt really talk about politics. Mainly morning news. we still have FOX news like the nationwide one. I just can't believe how we treat this country unfairly by not working together and instead they put it all in a file and defend it. Republican file, Democrat file. What ever is republican goes in that file, what ever is democrat is in the other file. People from both parties check it, to make sure they know what side they choose instead of expressing their true opinion on the issues. I say we burn those files. I hope i didnt lose anyone. Just remember i was speaking metaphorically just now.

[DrunkenArse]

I'm still waiting for you to say something offensive

[lucidspark64]

fuck you monkey! lol kiddin just kiddin i know you not talkin to me anyways

[DrunkenArse]

Hah! No, I was talking to you. I guess I'm just so radical that everything we're saying on this thread seems to me like we might as well be saying that the sky is blue on a clear sunny day

[Exhalent]

What matters is not the parties but the ideoligies behind them, and how it effects the country as a whole.