Drugs and Meditation

[ChrissyMaria]

I am curious about this subject, what effect if any, do drugs have on meditation? Drugs like: Caffeine Cocaine Cannabis/Weed/Pot...(whatever you personally refer to it as) Alcohol Ketamine DMT AMT LSD MDMA MDA DXM Does anyone have any information about the effects of these drugs on mediation and dreaming? I've been reading a whole slew of info about near death experiences, meditation and mind-altering drugs.... I wonder if an OOBE is achievable with mediation + drugs (My main interest is in cannabis+meditation) Occasionally when using cannabis in a tired/sleepy state I get majorly odd sensations, the sensations of falling or flying...being off balance and dizzy...I wonder if in this state i could meditate and get extra out of it perhaps? Usually these feelings persist when using too much cannabis coupled with lack of sleep or overall tiredness, for me at least its quite an unpleasant experience to smoke when already sleepy.

[Kuhnada29]

I know weed makes you see things like they really are..... you can mediate on weed. IMHO, I think it is easier to meditate with weed because it focuses you awareness "IN" on who you really are and how you really feel about life. This is all on personal experience, not scientific data.

[CoLd BlooDed]

I've meditated on LSD numerous times, and it's one of the single most gratifying experiences I've ever had. Really taught me to unite with each passing moment; to absorb the sounds, sights, smells and become one with everything beside you, under you, and over you.

[altagu]

i tried meditating high on weed. kept losing focus. my mind runs a million thoughts a second with most of the weed around here.

[Universal Mind]

I won't even bother meditating if I have been on a pot binge in the past three weeks. That stuff makes it impossible for me to feel the natural high from meditation. Pot kills my ability to have lucid dreams that last also. I don't know about the other drugs. I can't see alcohol being anything good for it. I have read very positive reviews about meditation on mushrooms, but I have never tried it myself.

[Kuhnada29]

altagu, the point is to stop thoughts....when you stop the thoughts you experience your true self. Just stop thinking so much, and breathe. Just be aware.

[altagu]

altagu, the point is to stop thoughts....when you stop the thoughts you experience your true self. Just stop thinking so much, and breathe. Just be aware. i do that when i meditate sober. the thing is, i cant "stop" thinking when stoned. doesnt really matter as i've quit smoking pot.

[Kuhnada29]

Yes I know it's hard to meditate when your high, but I see it as the more you attempt to shut your mind up while high, the easier it becomes. If you can stop thoughts consciously while high, when your sober you will do it automatically. Usually these feelings persist when using too much cannabis coupled with lack of sleep or overall tiredness, for me at least its quite an unpleasant experience to smoke when already sleepy. I've heard melatonin supplements alleviate the negative effects of weed like memory loss, loss of concentration, loss of motivation, fatigue, cloudy mind, lack of dreams and depression. Maybe because weed releases a lot of melatonin( up to 4,000% ) and runs your brains supply dry. And therefore taking a longer time for you to remake the chemical.

[grasshoppa]

I've tried meditating on shrooms and weed and alcohol. Shrooms is definately the best, you feel amazing doing it. I was just sitting on a bench, and closed my eyes. It wasn't like lotus posture meditating, but it was pretty cool. Weed, like others have said isn't really good for meditating, your mind is easily distracted and wanders off on millions of tangents. I haven't actually meditated on alcohol, but sometimes I'm sitting down, just watching people and I can get into a pretty interesting state of mind. It's usually pessimisic thoughts, but suprisingly profound. I think I alcohol causes you to relax your mind from constantly reacting to the incomming stimuli, causing you to have a steady thought stream that can be focused on. But that's only with a small amount, like 2-3 beers. Alcohol was actually thought of as a drug for enlightenment when it was first discovered. Sober it is hard to meditate, I find I can do it alot easier after I do Taichi, I get very relaxed. I still find my mind wanders a bit, but I need to work on that.

[ChrissyMaria]

i do that when i meditate sober. the thing is, i cant "stop" thinking when stoned. doesnt really matter as i've quit smoking pot. Sounds like you've been smoking some dank sativa, out here we get nothing but indica which makes you sleepy and wanna just sit on the couch and play videogames. Or In my case, meditate...I haven't come across sativa/hyper weed in ages, i miss those strains... I also meditated while on lsd, which was an incredible sensation. Normally when I meditate sober, I get this natural high feeling that reminds me of cannabis a bit, when coupled together with a nice joint it can be a magical meditation I have found. The strains of bud out here make me so gone that I cannot feel my legs, as if im weightless and im floating without legs.

[StonedApe]

In about a month I'm planning to take some LSD and do nothing but sit zazen for most of the trip. The thing is I've never sat for more than 45 mins, and even that was a bit agonizing. Meditating with weed can be fun, I once got some visuals while meditating with some headies. But as for quieting the mind, and doing the actual work of meditation, weed is more of a hinderance than anything else.