The Corporation

[Cyclic13]

Playlist of all 23 chapters What is a Corporation? The Corporation is today's dominant institution, creating great wealth but also great harm. This 26 award-winning documentary examines the nature, evolution, impacts and future of the modern business corporation and the increasing role it plays in society and our everyday lives. One particularly disturbing part is... Part 5: The Case Histories Case histories can be used to diagnose the kind of personality that makes the corporation an externality-creating machine. Externalities such as harm to employees through the use of sweatshops: the exploitation of Third World countries' employees resulting in a huge discrepancy of price versus cost. Other externalities such as pollution and adverse health effects emerge. These include the genesis of the petrochemical industry and links to cancer, birth defects and other toxic effects. Another externality is harm to the biosphere or the environmental costs resulting from the way corporations operate, costs that will be passed off to future generations. Have we created a doom machine? Thoughts?

[NonDualistic]

"We" are the doom machine in that the individual surrenders their individuality to empower the collective "we". The collective "we" takes on many forms, the corporation is just one example.

[Cyclic13]

I know the collective doom machine is simply a reflection of that doom machine which always resides inside our individual hearts, whether we acknowledge it or not. But, individuals being aware of exactly how deep the wound in our heart goes can hopefully allow that doom machine to mend the tears, or at the very least, handle them with a little more grace then we collectively have been. Because, as it stands right now, the collective "we" isn't taking steps that are sustainable. Period. I always knew that a form of Thanatos resides in us all, but I hope for anyone's sake that it should always be hard to accept that Thanatos has actually become the captain of this communal ship we ride in. In any event, the upcoming years should be interesting. We are right on the cusp of history. I hope "we" don't drop the ball.

[NonDualistic]

The collective "we" seems to have severed its ties to the plight of the individual. As such, those tears in the individual simply cannot be mended by it. The individual is the individuals only hope. Things must run their due course despite the duality of right or wrong, good or bad. What must be must be, though most will not be in acceptance of it.

[Cyclic13]

I think it will just be a transition. It seems difficult for us to face the music because this moment as it is now, seems so real it might hard for some to let go of. I really like the metaphor of birth that Terence McKenna used in one of his lectures,

[dragonoverlord]

Before i watch this can you tell me if this is about america or is it made from an international perspective?

[Cyclic13]

It deals with the idea of our current communal drive to corporatization in general. From America...to third world nations... to India and other countries that are now corporatizing.

[awoke]

I saw this doc. in theaters when it first came out. i wish more people were exposed to it. thanks for spreading.

[stars777]

We are the whistleblowers

[Cyclic13]

Hi there, mystic... The randomness never ceases to amaze...

[dajo]

I'd also recommend Naomi Klein. One of her most popular books would be 'No Logo'. This field is huge, it really takes a bunch of effort to get into all of the details of what's really going on with globalization. With all of its facets. I haven't watched the documentary, I will later though. Before i watch this can you tell me if this is about america or is it made from an international perspective? There is no 'local' and no 'america' if you are talking about internationalism. With this thinking, you'll never get any of the economic interdepencies. Part of the entire issue is that seemingly unrelated things effect each other, in disregard of any borders.

[StonedApe]

I should have started watching this before I made my other thread, the problems are somewhat related. Monsanto is really really fucked up. One part of me says that something really needs to be done about them, but another says that that kind of total absurdity is needed for people to wake up and see what it is that is going on. I had a conersation about them earlier with a friend. We both agree that Monsanto and companies like them are one side of what could almost be referred to as the illuminati, but I don't want to call it that because people won't beleive anything even resembling a conspiracy theory. But I think that there are systems of "control" in place. Some other sides are the amrements industry, the medical industry(mainly pharmacy), and in some ways the electronic industry. This is what we were talking about earlier, but watching this video is making me feel like it comes from many more mundane areas of industry as well. Cyclic, what do you think the US will be like after this transition? I'm still not sure weather or not I'm gonna leave when I finish school or not. For a while I was going to, then lately I've been feeling like I should stay(mainly because I'm a jazz musician and I think it'd be easier to find gigs here). "I mean, I have a lot of faith in the corporate world because it's always gonna be there, so you may as well have faith in it because if you don't then that's just not good." - Guy who's college was paid by being a corporate whore. Holy shit, things are fucked up.

[DeathCell]

I know the collective doom machine is simply a reflection of that doom machine which always resides inside our individual hearts, whether we acknowledge it or not. But, individuals being aware of exactly how deep the wound in our heart goes can hopefully allow that doom machine to mend the tears, or at the very least, handle them with a little more grace then we collectively have been. Because, as it stands right now, the collective "we" isn't taking steps that are sustainable. Period. I always knew that a form of Thanatos resides in us all, but I hope for anyone's sake that it should always be hard to accept that Thanatos has actually become the captain of this communal ship we ride in. In any event, the upcoming years should be interesting. We are right on the cusp of history. I hope "we" don't drop the ball. I major in Business .

[Cyclic13]

I major in Business . "Busi-ness" is the perverse art of mindlessly, sometimes mindfully, keeping busy for business sake. Ssshh... can't spoil the fun... We don't want to wake them... I'm late... I'm late... For a very important date...

[DeathCell]

"Busi-ness" is the perverse art of mindlessly, sometimes mindfully, keeping busy for business sake. Ssshh... can't spoil the fun... We don't want to wake them... I'm late... I'm late... For a very important date... That would be the point of the white rabbit, to represent the "adult" that mindfully watches his clock hour by hour, oh me I'm late!

[WakataDreamer]

When I saw the title I thought this was another Illuminati/NWO thread

[Cyclic13]

Cyclic, what do you think the US will be like after this transition? I'm still not sure weather or not I'm gonna leave when I finish school or not. For a while I was going to, then lately I've been feeling like I should stay(mainly because I'm a jazz musician and I think it'd be easier to find gigs here). I don't think it's a matter of what the US, Europe, or Asia will be like after the transition... When the transition occurs it will happen on a global scale with all systems-- physical and psychic (aka. environmental and financial) taking even more noticeable and irreparable hits. It's already begun in Africa and other less industrialized nations in South America with less-fortunate people having to hunt animals they wouldnt otherwise eat due to deforestation, dislocation, and endangerment of certain species caused through the international thieves like the IMF and other corporate sponsored terrorist organizations in suits and ties raping countries of the land and resources with the strike of a pen, a smile, and a handshake by forcing them into debt and buying up the country. And, as with everything, it can be carried one of two ways... One way is to ignore the systemic flaws of the current cultural mindset of greed, and passively take a back seat allowing things to flow right past the brink into the biosphere's collapse and failure on all fronts... The other way is to continually challenge those carrying the current mindset to reshape it into a cyclical understanding of time and nature, and have them reconnect that understanding back to all that is, gaining with it an equilibrium and sustainability. So far, humanity has managed to pull some pretty spectacular rabbits out of their collective hat just in the nick of time to avert any real major global disasters in the past. That's why I have faith in the few mavericks lurking in the mist. I've never had much faith in the mainstream many who complacently buy into dogmatic belief systems (scientific or otherwise) without pushing themselves to question things on a deeper level. This time around, the hour is late, the options are few, and the odds are stacked against us... Where we will place our collective bets is anyone’s guess. I’d say, as of this minute, we have chosen to collectively ignore the idea of solving the looming problem on the ever-approaching horizon. People skirt that individual responsibility by pouring their faith into false idols and messiahs who spout empty words of change but aren't actually willing to make the sacrifice or take the viable steps to live up to what they proudly preach for themselves and the countries/companies they are leading over the edge of the cliff.

[DeathCell]

I see your fool and raise you a..

[Cyclic13]

Oh? I Call

[Jeff777]

Playlist of all 23 chapters What is a Corporation? The Corporation is today's dominant institution, creating great wealth but also great harm. This 26 award-winning documentary examines the nature, evolution, impacts and future of the modern business corporation and the increasing role it plays in society and our everyday lives. One particularly disturbing part is... Part 5: The Case Histories Case histories can be used to diagnose the kind of personality that makes the corporation an externality-creating machine. Externalities such as harm to employees through the use of sweatshops: the exploitation of Third World countries' employees resulting in a huge discrepancy of price versus cost. Other externalities such as pollution and adverse health effects emerge. These include the genesis of the petrochemical industry and links to cancer, birth defects and other toxic effects. Another externality is harm to the biosphere or the environmental costs resulting from the way corporations operate, costs that will be passed off to future generations. Have we created a doom machine? Thoughts? Communist!!!

[CanceledCzech]

I haven't finished watching this, and I haven't read any of the replies (except for jeff's "red scare" only because it's the last comment ) but I am currently on 11/23 - Basic Training (about children and advertisement). I already know how pervasive advertisement is. And I hate it. I hate it more than anything. And I already knew about the manipulation of children through these ads. But hearing it again and how they do it fills me with so much digust... Also, those two guys who are doing the corporate sponsor -- fucking whores. Edit: I just watched 16/23, the whole deal on patenting life and the human genome and I am absolutely offended. Completely disgusted, I cannot believe this shit is happening. It is a fucking disgrace. Unforgivable.

[StonedApe]

Unforgivable.

[Carôusoul]

I haven't finished watching this, and I haven't read any of the replies (except for jeff's "red scare" only because it's the last comment ) but I am currently on 11/23 - Basic Training (about children and advertisement). I already know how pervasive advertisement is. And I hate it. I hate it more than anything. And I already knew about the manipulation of children through these ads. But hearing it again and how they do it fills me with so much digust... Also, those two guys who are doing the corporate sponsor -- fucking whores. Edit: I just watched 16/23, the whole deal on patenting life and the human genome and I am absolutely offended. Completely disgusted, I cannot believe this shit is happening. It is a fucking disgrace. Unforgivable. So what are you gonn do about it?

[Caprisun]

YES!!!!

[CanceledCzech]

So what are you gonn do about it? We'll see. Maybe nothing. And fuck me.... I knew someone was going to do this. Guess I can't blame you, I'd do the same thing.