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      Does anyone else get this?

      So I've noticed sometimes when I'm in bed, near the edge of sleep, my thoughts subtly change, little by little, until they are being fully visualized and acted out in dream form. I often get jarred out of them when I realize that I'm in my bed, and non of the things happening could be happening. This often happens during the day too, like say I'm in a car on a long trip, and so I close my eyes to relax, and start to think deeply about somethings. I guess you could say they're like breif, very intense day-dreams. Has anyone else had these? And, do you think I could possibly use them to induce a lucid dream?

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      Back when I was able to lucid dream, I found that visualizing like that was one the easiest ways for me to become lucid. So much so that I started using sound effects, such as birds tweeting, to imagine myself in the woods and I would just let my imagination go. Soon it would turn into a lucid dream where I was walking in the forest and able to control what I wanted to do in my dream.
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      Yes. This is, I think, what happens to everyone while they're falling asleep, but you might remain conscious of it longer than others.

      If you do a WBTB, this could be used to induce a lucid dream. The problem with trying to LD that way while going to bed at your regular time is that you don't enter REM right away. So even if you remained conscious and did a WILD while going to bed, you'd never be able to enter very intense dreams. They'd just be thoughts and visualizations, perhaps semi-dreams that would disappear quickly. But if you sleep for 6 hours or so, wake up for 20 minutes and then do what you describe, you may be able to enter a full REM dream quickly.

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      I don't know if this is the same thing but when i wake up in the morning, i just maybe think of a dream or something else i still know i am laying on my bed but i realize after i open my eyes that i was pretty much having a dream. It is almost like when i 6-7 years old and i could leave a lucid dream say "yes i am getting up to go to school" lay down concentrate and the dream would all come back to me not as vivid and real as it was before but maybe i could change that if i tried again. Which at the time i dint know i was just doing a DEILD
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      @SilentDream hmm... that sounds interesting... perhaps I can try that out myself. But if I'm getting what you said right, you just listened to the sounds of your enviroment, and let that help you build a dream scene? Or do you let the sounds themselves sculpt out a dream scene? Either way, it seems like it's something I could try. I mean, I remember listening to a radio, and I started to 'intense day dream' about the things they were talking about. The only thing I would have to figure out is how to hold onto my awareness into the 'dream' state. Also, what do you mean by when you could lucid dream?

      @Dianeva I don't really like doing the WBTB method, even though I guess it would be the best method for me because the time I did use it (well, accidentally at least) I had the longest, most vivid lucid dream ever... well then now that I think about it, then I guess I should try using it again. Though I'll probably try SilentDream's method as well.

      @Oster Not sure if thats the same thing, but it sounds similar.

      I think I'll try the WBTB method tonight, since it's very late where I am right now, 1:33 AM.

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      What I did was used one of those sleep therapy machines. You could choose from water, white noise, birds, etc. I would play that in the background, and then build my dream around that noise. Any other noises in the room (like my dog snoring) used to bother me, but I learned that I could actually use those sounds to help, by incorporating them into my visuals, which later became part of my dream. For example, my dog breathing hard would become a lion sleeping by a tree. For me, whenever I used this technique to lucid dream, intention was really an important aspect. So before I even started with the visualizing, I would relax for a little while and repeat to myself that I would remember my dreams, and that as soon as I started to have a dream I would recognize that it was dream. Also I had in mind what I wanted to do when I became lucid. This is my favorite way to become lucid, but I’ve read that others don’t have much luck with it at night time, and that it’s a better technique for naps. Either way, it’s worth a try I think, because you never know—it may work for you too.

      What I meant by when I could lucid dream, is that I got busy with college about 8 months ago, and didn’t keep up with dream stuff. So now I have to start all over with learning to just remember my dreams again.

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      All the time, that's basically how I fall asleep. In a similar fashion my thoughts become increasingly stranger - if I'm not too deep I'll experience moments where I've been following several connected trains of thought, and then all of a sudden I can't remember what I was thinking about a single second ago. And the deeper, stranger thoughts are when I know I'm going to have a good dream sleep, so that's always good. It's weird, though, except for a few strange phrases I can never remember what exactly I'm thinking/dreaming of at those times because they are just too bizarre for my waking brain to comprehend. Is that what your visualization daydreams are like?
      Unfortunately I can't help you with using that to LD...I don't have a specific technique to lucid dream myself

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