Polyphasic Sleeping

[mikeyfbi]

Just wondering if anyone has heard of this, or knows of any research done on the long term effects of this extreme poyphasic sleep system. I do plan on trying it...actually starting tomorrow...for various reason but one of them being the possibilites it leaves open for amazing lucid dreaming. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=892542

[Seeker]

Please do a forum search on this or PM Placebo. He has experimented extensively with this technique. Unfortunately, my schedule does not allow me the flexibility to try this. Good luck!

[dazed and confused]

Please do a forum search on this or PM Placebo. He has experimented extensively with this technique. Unfortunately, my schedule does not allow me the flexibility to try this. Good luck! [/b] +1 on talking with placebo. He is very knolageable on this subject. I have tried ubersleeping, and it is great. The only problem is that the rest of the world does not ubersleep. It is hard to stick to the schedule, and you have to do it consistantly. Don't let me scare you off tho, it is a really sweet way to sleep.

[PenguinLord13]

I somehow get a feeling it has some health reprocusions, but it sounds cool. I'm not done growing though, so I don't want to do it yet, but I'd consider doing this in college or something, if my schedule accomodates it once I'm done growing.

[Nathaniel]

it's fun if you've got the right times... see, it requires less of your time, but more of the rest of the worlds. you need to actually get to sleep, and get awake again within a strict napping scheduel. and as someone already said, the world sleeps at night, so you'd better have something to keep you active during the night, and i dont suggest video games, they have strange effects on your dreams with such short naps. imagin only sleeping 3 hours every 24 hour period, and dreaming san andreas! a bit too violent for my taste, but i got quite good at the game

[King and God]

Of the 14h awake/day I have right now there is too little to do already, and it would be even more boring with 22h. And I like having long dreams, and I also want my body to be able growing more, since I'm only 18.

[QwinsepiaSquared]

Geez, I'd have such a hard time filling up my spare time if I only slept 3 hours a day. I'd like, be forced to watch those dumb infomercials at 3 AM on TV. Not to mention I'd have to sleep in the middle of the school day to get this to work right, unless I could find a way to force it to make me tired only around 12-3 at night.

[blade5x]

How do you dream if you only take naps? Are the naps just REM sleep? I might actually try it this summer. There's a few things/hobbies I want to pick up on, and having those extra hours really adds up. Keeping myself occupied would be the most important thing, because there's no way I'm staying awake for 22 hours a day if I've got nothing to do. And what about for people are physically active? Would this really work? I mean I find it hard that half an hour would repair my muscles after being active. I understand how it works mentally, but how would something like affect me physically?

[King and God]

From what I have gathered, the naps are REM-sleep only, meaning they only take care of the mind, not the body. So this is not a good idea if being physically active.

[becomingagodo]

Conclusion Healthy humans cannot entrain polyphasic sleep without a degree of sleep deprivation. It is not possible to sleep polyphasically and retain one's maximum creativity, alertness, and health in the long run Whoever claims to be on a perpetual polyphasic schedule must be either suffering from a sleep disorder, or be a liar, a mutant, or a person with a mulishly stubborn iron-will that lets him plod through the daily torture of sleep deprivation All the hype surrounding polyphasic sleep can be delegated to the same lunatic basket as miracle diets, scientology, homeopathy, water magnetizers, creation "science", electrolytic detoxifiers, or Sylvia Browne. If you are interested in any of these, visit the most entertaining site on the web run by the indefatigable guru James "The Amazing" Randi If you do not believe the arguments presented in this article, or if you think the author is biased, ignorant or driven by a hidden agenda, please contact me. If you still plan your own polyphasic experiment, let me offer my best assistance. Let us together measure the effects of polyphasic sleep. Let your torture and lost health pay back in a contribution to science. Use SleepChart to track your progress. Your data, if submitted, will contribute to the understanding of human sleep patterns. Thank you If you want to maximize the time spent in productive wakefulness, read about free running sleep. Let your biology work for you, not against you [/b] http://www.supermemo.com/articles/sleep.htm#Insomnia According to this website polyphasic sleep is bad for you.

[blade5x]

From what I have gathered, the naps are REM-sleep only, meaning they only take care of the mind, not the body. So this is not a good idea if being physically active. [/b] Yeah I figured, guess I won't be trying it then, oh well. Not going to disable myself physically

[maciuncio99]

Ill try this in college

[Nathaniel]

as far as the physical goes, i would assume that eating better, and more would have some counter ballance to that problem. and i think that being physically active would make it easier to sleep at iregular times, like in the middle of the day. i would also assume that there is somethign to do with meditation involved in polyphasic... and i say assume, because i have never successfully converted to this method for any length of time. so i assume that sleeping in a position more geared toward meditation would help you gain more physical energy, as opposed to the tossing and turning that may take place during an average night. but yeah, im rambling, so i'll go away now. *tips hat*

[3FLryan]

This doesn't directly relate to dreaming, but I'm sure this kind of REM sleep might be useful to many of us here. Interesting read, I might try this in the near future. If anyone does, or has, let me know your results! EDIT: Oops, haha, sorry, forgot to post the link: Here it is Looks very interesting.....got to check that out thanks. Nice... very interested. I wish I could try it, but its frowned upon to take a nap on the job. Yeah, that was my worry, too. I guess it's not really an option for a lot of people. I'm gonna have to try it while I'm still in school where it's more feasible. so you can still maintain a regular daily schedule[/b] I found that funny Considering most people have jobs or school, this is impossible. No its not impossible I know a number of people who have maianited Ubermans Sleeping Schedule for a number of years Imran That sounds interesting, maybe I'll try it out when summer vacation starts (too bad that not till May), sounds better than intentional insomnia if you want more free time, unless of course, you eat yourself out of house and home. Warning. This post isn't addressing polyphasic sleep directly, but one of its earlier features, sleep deprivation. I tried normal sleep desprivation, by this I mean an accidental sleep deprivation by with no strict shedule, while suffering insomnia or just sleeping considerably less than normal every day (4 hours per day and such). The state of mind became weird, as if I was permanently drunk. It could feel hard to think, although it was not, there was just that feeling that the world is a bit remote and you're just a little deaf. It also felt a bit unreal. As for lucid dreaming, sleep deprivation sort of helped it, but there's one thing that reduced the effect: tiredness. I fell asleep extremely fast, could do it whenever I wanted to (and normally, I'm from those guys who need a lot of time to fall asleep), but tiredness made me want to just shut off my mind and rest. I see it as a big drawback of such methods. You get a chance to lucid dream more than usual, but you don't want to use that chance, you want to sleep! What I mean by lucid dreaming was mostly WILDs and such things, it became easier to be in the state of not sleeping and not being awake. Maybe coz you're not in your normal state of mind during the day. So, this is just sleep deprivation. If polyphasic sleep truly makes you *not* tired while giving the same benefits, then it's worth a try... A cool side effect: On a sidenote, this cured my insomnia-like problems with sleeping. Now I don't need to lie in a bed for a long time before falling asleep. The organism sort of acquired a habit of falling asleep fast, right now I don't deprivate myself of sleep, but fall asleep in a minute or less. So if anyone suffers from being unable to fall asleep quickly, maybe you should try sleep deprivation to change your organism's habits. Yeah, im thinking this would be impossible during highschool. I herd about this a year or two ago but the account i herd of failed it after about 6 aganizing days. I have a job, but its very free flowing, i would be abel to take two 30 minute breaks during the day. Better yet, im at my fathers during febuary vacation, maybe i will try it then. Seems like it could make WILDing incredibly easy. Well good luck ShYne123 if you do try to go through it, I might as well, but you never know how crappy you'll feel while in the adaptation phase. Well good luck ShYne123 if you do try to go through it, I might as well, but you never know how crappy you'll feel while in the adaptation phase. [/b] If you actually want to see the effects, I'm sure feeling crappy for 7 days won't really matter. But the more I think about it, the more I realize how radical the lifestyle change would be. I still think it would be worth a try though, just for the hell of it, if you could afford to do it. Because this has been brought up so many times I have looked into it rather extensively. However I have no experience of my own. I have never tried it. The Ubermans sleep cycle? What I have concluded is that it contradicts our normal circadian sleep cycle. Or natural process/rhythm of sleep. You have many yays and nays to this approach. I tried to research this from a scientific perspective. I.E. Long term side affects. Im not going to try it during febuary vacation, its really not long enough. It would be a radical change, your friends would have to understand it, they would have to realize you need 2 sleep from 10-10:30 everynight, it would be a little weird. (Going out with friends, or to a party and leaving for 30minutes) Lol it would also get really lonly, i personally hate being by myself for long periods of time, and from about 3am- on it would be pretty lonly. But when you take into account Work its really only from about 3-8 then your off. Anyway this summer im going to give it a try. My mom works from home, and shes also thinking about it. The Ubermans sleep cycle? What I have concluded is that it contradicts our normal circadian sleep cycle. Or natural process/rhythm of sleep. [/b] Actually, babies sleep on a polyphasic schedule. So perhaps it is a natural approach to sleep. I think at the least it is possible, but perhaps polyphasing is best for certain situations that require it, but not for the rest of your life. Did you read the link of ryan's post? It is very insightful and the guy who did it leaves no stoned unturned while experimenting with it. He did it for 5 months and cited that he preferred to be on the monophase schedule to be on everyone else's time. You have many yays and nays to this approach. I tried to research this from a scientific perspective. I.E. Long term side affects.[/color] [/b] I don't think there are any long term polyphaser's, are there, at least not in the strict Uberman approach? I so want to do this, as I think I would experience consciousness in a timeless state. I would want to feel this way and see how it changes my perception of how to live my life. Most people say that they wouldn't want to do it because they would watch tv or play computer games all the time and get bored. With that much time in my hands, I could learn so much more and give the world back twice what it gave me. If I do follow this polyphase cycle, I will keep a journal of the whole experience just to add to the record. Increase the Peace!

[synchroma]

For detailed account of first-hand experience of Polyphasic Sleep, check out this link to read about his 5-month experience. I think the previous excerpt from supermemo.com is quite skewed. There is another person who follows a polyphasic schedule, who is a student. There are different variations to it and keeping a strict 6 nap schedule, each nap about 25-30 minutes long, is the recommended schedule, but many people adapt it to fit their schedule and some will change it up. Claudio Stampi wrote a book about, called "Why We Nap". Also, as babies we naturally slept polyphasically. Hmmmm...

[3FLryan]

Sorry for making a new thread about this when there already was one. But I definitely did not write all of that stuff in that previous post, only a few lines. The rest are from all the other people who postes in my thread, I guess.

[PenguinLord13]

as far as the physical goes, i would assume that eating better, and more would have some counter ballance to that problem. and i think that being physically active would make it easier to sleep at iregular times, like in the middle of the day. *tips hat* [/b] I would have to agree with that. From what I understand, when you sleep polyphasically, you have to eat extra to counterbalance the extra waking hours, and with a good balanced diet, I think it wouldn't do too much damage to the physical action, as if you do do something very physical during the day, you can always just do the 3 hour core sleep that night in order to attend to your NREM needs.