Thread: I know, it's not the way to think...but I cannot SP to save my life!

Originally Posted by Jorge

LOL anyway, I want to experience it, in order to WILD it's a necessity.

This is a misconception. It is not a necessity to experience sleep paralysis in order to WILD. I think people here put much too much significance on SP.

Originally Posted by skysaw

This is a misconception. It is not a necessity to experience sleep paralysis in order to WILD. I think people here put much too much significance on SP.

Well, yes, but I want to make a slight clarification to this. Sleep paralysis, as a bodily function, is absolutely necessary. I think even sleep walkers are paralyzed for the first few minutes of sleep. But the experience of sleep paralysis, can be avoided. In other words, you can get to a point where you're entering the dream and your mind is beginning to focus on dream senses just as your body becomes paralyzed. So SP still happens, but you avoided feeling the potentially painful part near the end. Look at techniques like VILD and perhaps DEILD for how to do this.

In fact, straight-up SP, where you get to SP and then enter the dream, is probably the worst way to WILD because there's a moment when you have to do everything absolutely perfectly or you'll screw up. So always try to visualize at all times. As you get closer to full SP, you should find that visualizing, especially in the first person, becomes very easy to do.

So my goal should try to VILD ad DEILD? And don't try to get to SP, but just visualize?

The point is not to worry about whether or not you feel the SP. SP is just something that you might experience, and it's talked about here and in LD literature more as a way to give you a head's up so that you don't panic the first time you feel it.

Lucidity is the destination, SP is just a possible sign on the side of the road.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

So SP still happens, but you avoided feeling the potentially painful part near the end.

Can you please tell me what do you mean by potentially painful?
I'm asking because I tried to WILD the other night.
At one point my arms got quite sore (like when a limb falls asleep).
They also felt all twisted and out of shape.

Originally Posted by moonshine

Can you please tell me what do you mean by potentially painful?
I'm asking because I tried to WILD the other night.
At one point my arms got quite sore (like when a limb falls asleep).
They also felt all twisted and out of shape.

That's it, you're body will feel heavy and seem to sleep.

Originally Posted by moonshine

Can you please tell me what do you mean by potentially painful?
I'm asking because I tried to WILD the other night.
At one point my arms got quite sore (like when a limb falls asleep).
They also felt all twisted and out of shape.

SOME people feel pain SOME of the time. Sometimes for me it feels like I'm being electrocuted, but it's not 'real' pain in that nothing is being damaged, except maybe your nerves (emotional nerves, not real nerves). If you WILD properly (unlike me), you'll feel close to nothing.