Has anyone had the thought that, your entire life up to this point, has been a dream, just one night and it suddenly ended, and you woke up to be a 1 day old baby.
Something to that sort, I know its weird, but yeah.
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Has anyone had the thought that, your entire life up to this point, has been a dream, just one night and it suddenly ended, and you woke up to be a 1 day old baby.
Something to that sort, I know its weird, but yeah.
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I see that notion mentioned on dreamviews all the time. :?
No, life isn't a dream. :P
No, life is entirely canon and it's not a cop-out. At least I hope so, or I'll be pissed and write a letter.
Why "just" a dream?
Some believe that all realities are dreamed realities, it is not a new belief by any means.
Why call life a dream if we don't even know what dreams are? Illusion is a much better word.
Yea, an illusion. Some one is pulling the wool over our eyes. But how can we prove it? Maybe aliens are the puppetmasters. That's my thought.
I dont claim it to be a new belief at all, it was just a thought that i pondered for a long time now.
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im suprised that id be the first one to mention the matrix films. off all things to watch before you go to bed the matrix films or the animatrix films are the best to induce lucidity.
iv all of a sudden gotten really interested in those films as it was only after reading about lucid dreaming a couple of weeks ago that i figured thats what the matrix is all about, it seems so obvious now
It is a dream..a nightmare I would like to wake up from. Unfortunately this lucid dreaming notion is the only way to get a glimpse of what life is...:P.Quote:
Originally Posted by boo1030
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or there is the whole paralell universe thing. dreams could be a way to enter paralell universes
If by parallel you mean coexistant to consensus reality and by universe you mean a reality defined by its limitations, then I would say yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by pond weed
Dreams are not defined by the limitations of reality. That's why they're so crazy and wonderful. Some things we could never possibly imagine on our own consciousness appear in our dreams.Quote:
Originally Posted by gigaschatten
If life is a dream, then what would a dream be?
I have definetly thought about things like this before. I am usually high when this runs through my mind though.
Well then there's this to consider -
When you dream, you create a whole world of your own in which to exist. Not necessarily consciously. And this world is very real - because it has been created out of what you believe to be real.
There are between 6.7 and 7 billion people on Earth. That's a LOT of willpower. You could say, based on the above, that it is enough to generate and sustain an entire universe. What if the entirety of waking life exists simply because we believe that it does; the collective willpower of the human race creating the world in which we think we live?
Discuss.
If life is a dream... I'm having a really boring FA, at least there are dreams whiting the FA to have fun lol
And reality being collective toughts of all humans on earth? I wonder... how did the humans won the idea of that ideal/real world?
i think one of the coolest things about dreams (aside from lucidity) is that it really digs deeper into the brain.
i cant remember exactly but we use a ridiculously small part of our brain.
things that we see every day are locked away in our brain supposedly forgoten, and dreams are LOADS of peices of memory mixed up to make new crazy experiences
Haven't heard that in a while. I thought that myth would be dead by now. Here, get some education: http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by pond weed
haha, that is interesting. how did i not know that, when i think back, i have never heard about the 10% thing from any teacher or acountable source.
If you turn a question into a statement - I agree entirely. Reading from some different sources I came across an idea that the difference between dream and 'reality' is the density of the matter. Therefore while the dream realm reflects your thoughts with ease the 'reality' does it as well but with much more resistance and it takes a time. It's like comparing sculpting in clay and chunk of steel. Also there is a question if this is your mind who shapes the reality or something deeper, less conscious. I found somewhere else another idea that your future is more or less decided by your higher self and step by step it leads you there while your mind thinks that it rules. The thing is that our understanding what is the best for us is 0. We tend to assess our happiness by: money, social status, influence on others, sex, relations and many other mortal things that for our higher selves just don't matter.Quote:
There are between 6.7 and 7 billion people on Earth. That's a LOT of willpower. You could say, based on the above, that it is enough to generate and sustain an entire universe. What if the entirety of waking life exists simply because we believe that it does; the collective willpower of the human race creating the world in which we think we live?
Knowing now that you use all your brain and being aware of your own limitations, you still think dreams are a byproduct of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by pond weed
but, dont we have loads of memories locked away in our brain. and our dreams are a sign that those memories are still there. a mixture of all these memories
so the fact that we cant access all these memories when ever we want is a sign that we dont use all of our brain, because if we did we could access all these memories on cue
isnt there that thing were, when people are about to die, thier life flashes before thier eyes, and that this is all thier memories of thier life stored away are suddenly being released /access by the brain.
How do you know it's stored in the brain?Quote:
Originally Posted by pond weed
Then why are those memories so radically distorted in dreams even if we can recall them clearly?Quote:
Originally Posted by pond weed
*sigh* Seems like everyone is a neuroscientist today.Quote:
Originally Posted by pond weed
Yes, that's what movies show. Why should "the brain" do that when it's about to die? Is it flushing?Quote:
Originally Posted by pond weed
If life is just a dream, then it seems there's not much we can do to wake ourselves up. :)
Not necessarily. The human body is not a computer where you can simply store information indefinitely and pull it up at will. I'm personally of a mind that each person remembers things differently and while some people tend to more easily remember feelings and emotions, other people more easily remember facts and specific details. I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by pond weed
I'm sure some people recall memories of certain people or events when faced with a dangerous situation, but they don't relive all of their memories. I've yet to hear of someone who almost died who was able to recall everything they saw after having "their life flash before their eyes." Evidence simply doesn't point to this being a real occurrence. However, I'm not denying the slim possibility.Quote:
isnt there that thing were, when people are about to die, thier life flashes before thier eyes, and that this is all thier memories of thier life stored away are suddenly being released /access by the brain.
I have thought about these things, though. A more interesting question might be this: what if we're a part of someone else's dream? If so, what will happen when they wake up?
Better hope they don't get lucid. They might start messing around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst Star
Hm, if our reality is a dream then... I will get first place on DG form so that I will mess in all of the guy/girl/thing dreams lol
Or put them in a coma or try to make it bipolar, something has to work from all those <.<
When I was about 3 1/2 I woke up one day. I didn't remember anything from before, but everything was sort of familiar. From that day, I had continuity of memory, but no memories from before that day except for a couple situations that people talked about quite a bit... not direct memories though.Quote:
Originally Posted by boo1030
I used to wonder even at 5 or 6 if maybe I was dreaming and would wake up and find I was really some other older kid... Never did though :lol:
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Oh this is quite the interesting concept. I personally like the theory that we could all be in a virtual program. I.E. we are stored in a supercomputer and our reality is the construct made of the information stored on such a device.
If this were true there could be multiple instances of the same reality being run of various computer type devices.
Also the is life a dream theory is also interesting if only there were more backing to such a theory.
The whole concept of life in general and what it really is, is really quite fascinating.
That's natural. Almost all people have it, except for a few who have eidetic memory....Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthHunter
Probably this was a day when your self-awareness was burn. As you may know small children do not have it at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthHunter
The same concept can be applied to itself.
ie. What if you wake up from that reality in which you just awoke to - in a sense a false awakening. This can be applied ad-infinitum, and then is nothing but open ended philosophy.
If you can define dream by what is real and what is not, then you are defining by what is known in your perception of reality (vs dream) and therefore overlooking the silliness of it if dream is a projection of reality itself.
Whatsoever you know is what you know, what is - is.
Are you the butterfly in that which you call a dream, or are you the human in that which you call reality?
There is only one solidity, and that is of existing. You are, whatsoever you are, you cannot transcend that, for even a false dream requires a dreamer.
Even if life is really just a dream/illusion/matrix. What would stop us from living it?
Sometimes I think that life, this universe is just a part of a path we're all taking. Maybe after life we find ourselves in eternity (think heaven) or maybe a (neverending or not) series of lives like this (incarnation, but maybe in different universes/dimensions/lives).
But if this is true it surely happens for us to learn something. If we find this true, should that be a reason to say, it's all a dream anyway?
Really? For me, I just have some memories of age 3 (the most vivid of which is a dream) and as I grew older, I got more and more memories.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthHunter
I have thought it regularly. If life is just normal dream and I cannot get lucid because there is no dream signs or reality check that works.
Would be cool.
The more I learn about dreaming, the more convinced I am that reality is a dream. There is some shared dreaming dynamic that keeps things stable which I haven't quite figured out yet, but all the basic rules of dreaming apply to the waking world.
At the very least, your dreaming attention is at work throughout the day. This is what fills in the blanks for things like optical illusions.
During the summer I was walking along and something green and shiny on the ground caught my attention. It was shinning so bright I was curious as to what it was. At first looked like a pop can, and I actually saw a pop can. But as I got closer, the details weren't quite right to be a can, and I saw something else (forget what). I got closer still and it saw a third item, which was also incorrect.
It was actually a green candy bar wrapper of a kind I've never seen before. The shiny green wrapper was unfamiliar and crumpled in an odd shape. But I distinctly say three different things before I got close enough to identify it for sure. (Or at least that's when it stopped changing;))
I could give tons of example on why reality is a dream, but I don't want to get into a big debate right now. All I'm saying is that once you learn how dreams work, you see that reality works the same way. And I don't mean knowing in theory how dreams work, you have to verify it and see for yourself. True knowledge isn't something you can read and memorize, it fundamentally changes you fundamentally forever.
So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by ThreeLetterSyndrom
This is certainley not a dream, but very real, it would be confusing anyway and we have dreams, we're not constantly asleep and missing out on the real world, cos if this was a dream what would reality be. makes no sense.
Well if we want to throw wild ideas this could just be very vivid dream that dilates time :) or maybe we are species that sleep for years. Or maybe this just feels like lifetime and we just don't understand it. Or maybe our real dreams work different way and not with the laws we are used to be :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Matthewlovesammy
Dream within a dream. That is possible. I have seen lots of dreams in which I see dream. Very confusing indeed.
Or maybe some robots are just keeping us in drugs and asleep as in Matrix. :P
Anything could be possible if we are to trust our senses. They often fail us.
We can't hurt in dreams, we can't die in dreams. Life is certainly not a dream.
In dreams we know. What if life is just more complicated and more realistic dream where you will bleed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
Have you died? :) what if you wake up when you do?
Sidenote : I do feel pain in dreams. Very realistic pain.
experiencing LD's certainly reaffirms my buddhist belief that life is just a dream. A much more stable one- yes, however if a dream can be so indistinguishable from RL what makes us so certain life is not just dream 2.0? In fact this slightly unrelated thought came to mind- the debate about reincarnation- people claim it isn't real because they/we can't remember our previous lives- is it really that surprising considering most of the worlds people can't even recall the dream they had just that morning? Plus I like how the concept of reality checking and doing RC's is basically just a way for you not to get carried away by life, to stand back and question it, and not allowing it to hypnotize you the same way you can be hypnotized in dreams- if that's not a buddhist practice I don;t know what is.
Life isn't only "more complicated and realistic"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unelias
Life is visually stable, with linear time, with uncontrollable "characters" who have integrity and unchanging past, with physical laws that can't be broken by you by will, without an ability to interrupt it forever by any other means than death, etc.
Dreams don't have all that. If you want to say that life is a dream, then I'm not sure what similar features you have in mind... Life is visually unstable? With non-linear time? ;)
Even if I find myself somewhere else after death, it won't prove that this world is a dream :) Unless the place of awakening happens to be a more real "reality" in comparison to which this reality is as lame as a dream. :)Quote:
Have you died? :) what if you wake up when you do?
@yuriythebest
Lol.. You have "lotus pose" and such things as goals in your signature, and then followed by "participate in genocide"... You aren't a real buddhist are you? Stop confusing people :)
But if we think that life is a dream where dream control is insanely hard? This life has only those regulations because you think they are true and you don't have strenght to break them because you are still dreaming :) but as I said, this could be a dream that is completely different from concept of dream we know :) but I gotta admit, there are places and situations where I am forced to do reality check. Just because life seems so unreal sometimes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
Dreams what dream in this life consist those features you mentioned :) but my dreams are quite realistic for of all five senses. I mean, waking world realistic. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
That is true. But what if after you die, you wake up on stone bed in some cave :D spooky..... We are just tossing with the idea after all :) but honestly, there is no way to tell if we aren't dreaming, because this "dream" could have rules we are not aware. ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
That must mean that other people don't exist :) If it's all in your mind only...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unelias
That poses a problem... people would start to argue. Hey, it's all in my mind, how dare you think that it's all in yours?! :) :) It's you who's unreal, not me! :)
There is such a thing as mental illness, too. Those people can break any laws of reality, and yet others think that what's going on in their mind is not influencing reality. We can see that what they say isn't happening, even if they can vividly see (if they hallucinate) the opposite. How comes reality isn't influenced if they see it happening? ;)
*shocked* I hope you're saying it to write beautifully :)Quote:
but I gotta admit, there are places and situations where I am forced to do reality check. Just because life seems so unreal sometimes. :)
If this "dream" might be a totally different concept of a dream as we know it, as you said, then it makes not much sense to call it a dream. :) Why do you call it a dream, only because we could 'wake up'? The latter seems a very far-fetched idea for me to be honest, like a last straw that the drowning men are grasping in hope that they won't die. :) At least I can see no normal reasons to think so, it's purely wishful thinking, even thinking that life's laws can be bent makes more sense ;)Quote:
but honestly, there is no way to tell if we aren't dreaming, because this "dream" could have rules we are not aware. ^^
P.S. What is it, as your avatar?
I hold buddhist beliefs and am a vegeterian- but just as christians are not always "orthdox" neither am I :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
Well, if this life was a dream, what would stop it from being a dream within a dream within a dream, ad infinitum? Just a thought. :)
I agree with Unelias that there are some circumstances which seem to defy logic and reason and/or deviate from the world we are accustomed to seeing. On the other hand, does it mean something supernatural has happened? Not necessarily.
To be honest, I find the notion of life being a dream rather depressing. Logically, if that were the case, I would be the point of consciousness, thus making it my dream, thus denying the reality of those around me. When I woke up, they would be gone. In addition, if this world was just a dream, what would stop me (or the dreamer) from doing whatever I (or the/she/it) wanted without thought for anyone or anything else? Enough people think themselves to be a god and destroy parts of the world. I suppose it just matters to which standards one holds him/herself, but still...
Anyway, those are just the thoughts of a non-philosopher. :)
Err.. You must be a New Ager then, with a buddhist trend :)Quote:
Originally Posted by yuriythebest
When the point comes to where you can't distinguish between a dream and reality you let me know. So far I haven't seen any pink elephants or any U.S Marines wearing man thongs so I dont think im dreaming right now.
Indeed. I dislike arguing in the first place anyway ^^ I am more in conversations :P I love to hear people thoughts and compare them to my own. There is always room to broaden your knowledge through that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
I have thought that regularly. Are you familiar with the (mostly pagan) concept of world existance. At least in some shamanistic and druidic ideas world is constantly shaped through our minds and shaman or similar person has a way to manipulate world in order to i.e heal a sick or like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
Now if it was so, it would take lots of willpower and faith to actually shape the world with your mind, or at least that what I would assume. Also if I knew I had some kind of mental illness, I probably wouldn't have the "true faith" that I can shape the world. Just tossing with the ideas again :) if one hallucinational sees pen floating and four other see it on the table, they have more collective "willpower" to keep pen from floating. Therefore, the actual world leaves the pen grounded. If we think world acts in that way. :P
Actually I have had lots of that kind of moments :) feel free to be shocked if you want to :P I have seen a lot and there are things that fit into category of w-w-w-weird :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
You are right on that, but we are humans and we operate with language. We need some word that awakens feelings and images. Since we are all here dreamers and the topic was if life was a dream, I try to reason it so that it fits somehow into that word. But of course we could invent totally new word :) I don't find it that different though, at least in my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
Oh that one :) it is a symbol of fictional goddess Sehanine Moonbow who his goddess of dreams, moon,mysticism, transcendence, spirituality, divination and journeys. I chose it because I find it beautiful although it is very simple. Also, because the things she is seen to symbolize are very dear to me. Moon is often seen as symbol for night and dreams. Dreams are very important in shamanistic cultures, which also have very ancient tradition here in the far north. I have embraced bits of my lands shamanistic heritage too and I find it very fascinating, as it centers to personal development instead of becoming involved with religion, religious groups, people who misuse religion, fanatics, grand deities etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
But in order to make things perfectly clear, I have nothing against different believes if they don't harm others. Faith is after all personal thing and in my opinion should be kept that way. I love to exchange thoughts tho' if someone is interested, but only then.
That's what we're doing, having a conversation! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Unelias
That can be an explanation, yes. Although what is a hallucination then, if it's seen? Sounds like a distorted perception to me, rather than a struggle between a floating and grounded pen.Quote:
if one hallucinational sees pen floating and four other see it on the table, they have more collective "willpower" to keep pen from floating. Therefore, the actual world leaves the pen grounded. If we think world acts in that way. :P
There are two types of hallucinations, one is conveniently called "pseudo-hallucinations", because it's not a distortion of something but seeing something that doesn't look vivid enough that it can be confused with reality. I guess this one could be said to be summoned with willpower :) But what about those real hallucinations, like when you can vividly see that the road is a river or something equally unusual...
Hm, also let's say that a small kid sits alone in a room, and sees a toy. A small kid wouldn't know much about the world, so it could make the toy float if it wanted, or something else equally bizarre, but it isn't happening, although there's nobody else in the room to counter the kid's efforts.
Although I guess this example can be made senseless if you say that collective willpower is not situational, but somehow permeates the whole world...
Can you tell me? I'm interested :)Quote:
Actually I have had lots of that kind of moments :) feel free to be shocked if you want to :P I have seen a lot and there are things that fit into category of w-w-w-weird :)
I understand, but I think that usage of the word introduces the distortion of meaning in this case. At least if we agreed that it's a loose term. There are many associations that the word "dream" brings up almost unconsciously :)Quote:
You are right on that, but we are humans and we operate with language. We need some word that awakens feelings and images. Since we are all here dreamers and the topic was if life was a dream, I try to reason it so that it fits somehow into that word.
Can you tell me about that shamanistic tradition that you partially embraced? I'd be grateful, I like that kind of things, and I'm not going to go saying "eww, that's stupid" and such :)Quote:
I love to exchange thoughts tho' if someone is interested, but only then.
Hmm interesting thought. So if we think we shape the world with our thoughts, doesn't it mean that world is made of something else that we currently think it is made of? Or that we can just manipulate atoms with our brains? Because if it's so, I wouldn't find impossible that your brain could overfire every once in a while, leading to hallucinations. Also, I tend to think that our sub-conc is does a lot things on its own. So if your sub-conc is working on its own and creating hallucinations inside your head that are not strong enough to affect the real world since it is only your sub-conc. Then some doctor comes to say at you that you are delusional, which leads to never-ending hallucinations :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
I have also pondered a lot about little childrens way of perceiving world. They basically know nothing about it unless they are told to and after they experiment on their own. But are you now suggesting that the kid sees it in his eyes floating or just tries it and nothing happens? Because children have very pure state of mind and if world worked like we have speculated here, I think there is a high chance that a kid could do that. For us, who have accepted how this world is seen and told to work it would be almost impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
For the collective willpower, I think it would radiate to whole world BUT it would be a lot stronger if the persons were close to the thing they wish to change and each others. Hence, this would explain why in ancient times rituals were performed usually in gatherings etc. in those communities that believed world to work like this. But I think it is fairly common among those people that shaping a world is difficult feat, so there are special persons ( shaman, druid, priest, mystic, witchdoctor etc) to perform it, who have been revealed secrets by gods or spirits and have trained in ways that normal people were not
Oh there are lots of. I am going to be very generic here but if you really want to know, you can PM me :). I have had feelings that resembel those of NDE and OBEs. I have almost died couple of times and been many times in life - death situations. I have seen places and things that seem to be very magical and mystical alike and felt things that are hard to explain with everyday feelings :) also I don't to believe that there is a pre-made destiny for us, yet I like to use the world fate in a different sense. And there are indeed situations that made me label it as "fate".Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
Of course :) this is kind of our limitation since we need words to define abstact things. I must admit, I wouldn't either use the word dream, instead I would define that life's nature is very dreamlike at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
Of course if you are interested. Again if you wish to ask something else after this feel free to PM. No need to feed this thread with our ramble ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
First of all, I don't personally consider shamanism religion. There are no gods to worship, although some gods are known. It is more based on respect towards spirits, nature and those few gods, not worship. This is why I treat people with personal faith with respect, but what I dislike is arranged religion.
Dreams ( surprise) are very crucial to me since shamans are often seen as journeymen between the planes of existance via dreamstate or trancestate. I see dreams as very good way to do introspection and deep search my inner feelings and desires. As I have said in some other posts too, I had lucid dreams and a "dreamguide" before I knew about LDs. Back then I merely categoriazed them to my shamanism. I am also intrested of OBEs alike, since I don't have habit of forcefully denying something at the straight hand. Also OBEs and astral projection would explain lot of shamanistic kind of abilities. I have had feelings that some might categoriaze as these two, but I am constantly studying and experimenting with everything.
Other parts of northern shamanism that I practice and know are for example entering a trance via singing, dancing or drumming, respect towards nature and being a part of it. ( Here in Finland very high amount people is quite closely connected to the nature by default), spellsinging or poemsinging.Soul linking and remote seeing are also things that have occurred to me. Pity that I have no clear evidence that what I see really happened. . Either way, I cannot control it by will, at least not yet. Also, knowing the lore of the land, nature and spirits is tightly associate with shamanism. There are also lots of other, smaller things that fit either into these large categories I described or are just bits and pieces. :)
Life is a dream. But it's a shared dream, which means unlike a regular night time dreams, you aren't the sole person influencing it. If you want to fly in RL, there are billions of people who negate those attempts.
The world does change in a dream like manner. One day it's flat, the next it's round. Reality is only what we all agree on.
The first rule of dreaming is that everything requires your attention to exist. That includes pain. If you stop to pay attention to your wounds, then it hurts. If you have more pressing matters at hand, like running for your life, the pain doesn't exist.
Watch children playing to see this happen in RL. Some kid can run head first into a brick wall in the most painful manner that makes you wince just to watch it, then they shake it off and jump back into the game they were playing like nothing happened. Unless the parents make a big deal over it, and draw attention to the injury, in which case the kid begins bawling.
(been trying to find a youtube vid to illustrate that)
Well even scientists don't yet know what the world is made of, atoms aren't the smallest thing in the world, and what is the smallest in unknown. I guess it's a mystery we can't solve at the moment. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Unelias
But there are no feats present to public view or something, so I think if manipulation is possible, it's hard as hell. Probably once we've learnt to "shape the world" with our thoughts, it can't be unshaped easily, without suffering errr, insanity, for example :) Because even if you're successful how are you supposed to know that it's truly happening and not only in your mind?
Some healthy person would probably go crazy if they as much as saw something "impossible", our minds are so fragile... We suffer serious consequences even from such trifles like stress. Seeing something impossible presents a danger. :(
Probably he just wants it to happen and it doesn't, well, I find it hard to imagine that the kid would succeed! I've never seen such a thing. It can't be that simple, even if you have a mind that hasn't "shaped reality" yet, there's something that prevents you from manipulating it. Perhaps manipulation is impossible until things are solidly shaped, and after they're shaped it's too hard to manipulate them.. :DQuote:
But are you now suggesting that the kid sees it in his eyes floating or just tries it and nothing happens? Because children have very pure state of mind and if world worked like we have speculated here, I think there is a high chance that a kid could do that.
I'll PM you for other things, a bit later :)
If this is all a dream then i created everyone on dreamviews in my head, and even this thread i created. Confusing.....:D
Yes and maybe someday someone will laught to us since we didn't know a jack :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
Well you could compare it to smithing. Metal is easy to manipulate once it is heated but after it has been cooled down it remains in the form it was shaped. Heating it over again requires a lot energy and effort. This is how I would see it at least :) Insanity is very relative, too. Of course there are mental illnesses that are caused by biological causes, but who can really define what is "insane" :P and to your last sentence, it is quite impossible to know :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
True. Especially, if you truly believe that something works in a way you have learned. Maybe all delusional people just were driven crazy because they saw something like that :tonguewiggle: but I wholeheartedly agree with the term you used. Fragile mind. Borrowing Dire Straits' Love Over Gold lyrics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
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I takes love over gold and mind over matter to do what you to that you must. When the things that you hold can fall and be shattered or run through your fingers like dust.
Well if world worked that way, I would find a childs mind one of the most probable one to succeed. :) but I doubt every child has that ability, as you said it wouldn't be that easy. But maybe somewhere some kid could do that by chance :) refer to my smithing example to the latter part of your quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
I'll be waiting :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutad
The same thing happen to me. When I was around 3 years old I "woke up" walked out to my parents and said. "I think I would like to be called Thomas." Up until that point I had no memories of life, only everything after that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthHunter
What if life is a dream and dream is our life... OoOoo
Na. And the next day, one day old. The next day andin one day old? Then you are always one day old? Ridiculous. If life is a dream, then the whole life is a dream, not just the past years. If Today is not a dream, then the whole life is not a dream too.Quote:
Originally Posted by boo1030
We'll never know, thats the fun of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hellohihello