Thread: Our life just a dream?

Originally Posted by Arutad

That must mean that other people don't exist If it's all in your mind only...
That poses a problem... people would start to argue. Hey, it's all in my mind, how dare you think that it's all in yours?! It's you who's unreal, not me!

Indeed. I dislike arguing in the first place anyway ^^ I am more in conversations I love to hear people thoughts and compare them to my own. There is always room to broaden your knowledge through that.

Originally Posted by Arutad

There is such a thing as mental illness, too. Those people can break any laws of reality, and yet others think that what's going on in their mind is not influencing reality. We can see that what they say isn't happening, even if they can vividly see (if they hallucinate) the opposite. How comes reality isn't influenced if they see it happening?

I have thought that regularly. Are you familiar with the (mostly pagan) concept of world existance. At least in some shamanistic and druidic ideas world is constantly shaped through our minds and shaman or similar person has a way to manipulate world in order to i.e heal a sick or like.
Now if it was so, it would take lots of willpower and faith to actually shape the world with your mind, or at least that what I would assume. Also if I knew I had some kind of mental illness, I probably wouldn't have the "true faith" that I can shape the world. Just tossing with the ideas again if one hallucinational sees pen floating and four other see it on the table, they have more collective "willpower" to keep pen from floating. Therefore, the actual world leaves the pen grounded. If we think world acts in that way.

Originally Posted by Arutad

*shocked* I hope you're saying it to write beautifully

Actually I have had lots of that kind of moments feel free to be shocked if you want to I have seen a lot and there are things that fit into category of w-w-w-weird

Originally Posted by Arutad

If this "dream" might be a totally different concept of a dream as we know it, as you said, then it makes not much sense to call it a dream. Why do you call it a dream, only because we could 'wake up'? The latter seems a very far-fetched idea for me to be honest, like a last straw that the drowning men are grasping in hope that they won't die. At least I can see no normal reasons to think so, it's purely wishful thinking, even thinking that life's laws can be bent makes more sense

You are right on that, but we are humans and we operate with language. We need some word that awakens feelings and images. Since we are all here dreamers and the topic was if life was a dream, I try to reason it so that it fits somehow into that word. But of course we could invent totally new word I don't find it that different though, at least in my mind.

Originally Posted by Arutad

P.S. What is it, as your avatar?

Oh that one it is a symbol of fictional goddess Sehanine Moonbow who his goddess of dreams, moon,mysticism, transcendence, spirituality, divination and journeys. I chose it because I find it beautiful although it is very simple. Also, because the things she is seen to symbolize are very dear to me. Moon is often seen as symbol for night and dreams. Dreams are very important in shamanistic cultures, which also have very ancient tradition here in the far north. I have embraced bits of my lands shamanistic heritage too and I find it very fascinating, as it centers to personal development instead of becoming involved with religion, religious groups, people who misuse religion, fanatics, grand deities etc.

But in order to make things perfectly clear, I have nothing against different believes if they don't harm others. Faith is after all personal thing and in my opinion should be kept that way. I love to exchange thoughts tho' if someone is interested, but only then.