Dream Time?!

[Howie]

I am not sure the avarage time that a person spends in REM or in a dream state. But I think it is safe to say that the dreams that seem to last for a day a week are not true to real time. I had a dream last night that could have been an entire movie. Or so it seemed. So this is what I was thinking. Could a mere thought of something |in a dream| be manifested has an entire dream scene instantaneously? So in your dream the scene was never actually played out, but as your mind had rendereded the thought --- your memory had percieved it to have been an entire scene. Making it possible to have a dream that is a week long.

[Gothlark]

That's a fairly possible theory, Howetzer. Another one I have is that adrenaline bursts sometimes seem to cause you to see the world and yourself as moving extremely slowly. If you could somehow trigger this in a dream, which might actually be easier than in real life, then you will create the world and your actions as fast as you think, which is currently at an excelled rate. You get my idea there?

[Howie]

Yes Gothlark, that too is a very intersting idea. Something takes place to bend time in a dream. So one thoery is as good as the next. I wish I had more long dreams like I had.

[whoeverwearevox]

Well, Time is relative. I know when i'm sitting in a class i dont like, it seems like it takes hours for the class to end. Someone else that likes the class may feel like the class is 15 minutes long. "Time flies when your having fun" a simplistic way of explaining that idea. Vox

[Rapscallion]

Howetzer, I believe you are correct. Maybe we only experience brief flashes of memories in dreams. Kind of strange to think we didn't actually fly somewhere in a dream when 1) You remember doing it, and 2) You know it never actually happened because you are dreaming. This brings up all sorts of odd issues concerning lucid dreams. If you wanted to walk through a wall, does your dream self actually perform the action, or does the dream environment shift to the other side of the wall, and your brain is implanted with the memory of walking? The idea that dreams are just false memories that we acquire while asleep is very interesting.

[Gothlark]

Originally posted by Rapscallion Howetzer, I believe you are correct. Maybe we only experience brief flashes of memories in dreams. Kind of strange to think we didn't actually fly somewhere in a dream when 1) You remember doing it, and 2) You know it never actually happened because you are dreaming. This brings up all sorts of odd issues concerning lucid dreams. If you wanted to walk through a wall, does your dream self actually perform the action, or does the dream environment shift to the other side of the wall, and your brain is implanted with the memory of walking? The idea that dreams are just false memories that we acquire while asleep is very interesting. This might be the case with time dilation, perhaps. I'm not so sure about this in even that situation. However, I'm fairly positive that this isn't the case with normal dreams or normal lucid dreams. Scientists can even tell that when you dream, your mind acts as if it's actually doing the actions that you do in the dream. That means it's done in the dream, not planted as a memory.

[Howie]

Think about a thought. A thought once percieved is a nothing more than a memory. A memory can contain all the data needed in order for your subconscious to manifest a dream scenario. In your mind, during a dream you may think of a thought and it is quickly processed and thought of as a memory inabling your mind to posses all the knowlede it needs to be a particular person in the dream as well as the scene itself in an instant.

[Fallen.Rain]

That sounds likely to me Howetzer, but I was wondering why you posted on it. Were you thinking of experimenting on it and seeing if you could use it? If so, how would you know if it happened or if you just remembered it happening? I mean, how would you know if you had performed the actions in the dream or simply had a memory of doing so? I know I've had many dreams that lasted for far longer than I was asleep, or so it seemed. I think this is a very good explanation for what happened. I could have processed the idea and assumed it done immediately and then moved on, but then if that's what happened, I can't see any way of knowing it.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Fallen.Rain+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fallen.Rain)</div> That sounds likely to me Howetzer, but I was wondering why you posted on it. Were you thinking of experimenting on it and seeing if you could use it? If so, how would you know if it happened or if you just remembered it happening? I mean, how would you know if you had performed the actions in the dream or simply had a memory of doing so? I know I've had many dreams that lasted for far longer than I was asleep, or so it seemed. I think this is a very good explanation for what happened. I could have processed the idea and assumed it done immediately and then moved on, but then if that's what happened, I can't see any way of knowing it.[/b] Why I posted it?? Just searhing for answers. I had a dream the night before that has seemed to last a vey long time. So I was just pondering over ideas. If you could think of a way to research it I'm all ears! <!--QuoteBegin-Gothlark Scientists can even tell that when you dream, your mind acts as if it's actually doing the actions that you do in the dream. That means it's done in the dream, not planted as a memory. This is true. But the question is then does the areas of the brain to which store memory ingnite the same responses during a dream as does the regions that interpreret the thought? If I remember it is stored in short turm memory. Which makes them so difficult to remember. But this could still follow the same thought/memory aspect that I was talking about.