LD sex question

[kramari]

I was just wondering how come girls in LD's are so easy to I just come up to them and say: "Hey, let's have sex!" and they always agree. Isn't that interesting? You never have to seduce them. It's not that I'm complaining, I'm just wondering.

[jacobo]

it's you. and no i'm not talking attractiveness... i'm talking mental stuff. i'm sure if someone was extremely depressed and truly down on them self it would be hard as hell to get laid in a normal dream. a lucid dream however... well then morals come into play there.

[Alaurast78]

Yeah well, you contorl the dream right? So why wouldn't a chick be more than willing.... that's what you want after all. It's your world, your head, your dream. What you want goes. Plus I heard that there are a lot of dream ho's out there lol

[Howie]

It definatly has to to with your mind set . It carries over to your dream character. I have had several occasions that I could have been with a girl or two But I guess because I am married that if I approach them I get deined or the dream scene will change on me. Rather frustraing actually. I guess my conscious does not feel it is right morally. Even though I claim it would be a release. My brain won't by it. But since it is a conscious decision, you have to ask yourself, (if your with someone) is it right or not? It has been talked to death on the forum.

[Tornado Joe]

I had a similar experience, kramari: I was headed towards the gate at an airport and on my way I saw this gorgeous body in a red dress on all fours - it looked like she had dropped something or lost her contacts or something - anyway, on my way past her I just said "yep, you'll do just fine. Yeah, just stay like that, I'll just lift up the skirt, there....." Well, you get the idea - She didn't even respond! It was like she really had no choice in the matter. Believe it or not, that actually ruined the whole experience! I felt like I forced her into it or somehting - I felt.... guilty I guess??! What an idiot, it was just a dream! But I just couldn't help feeling bad about it (felt DAMN good for a while, though!)

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by Tornado Joe Believe it or not, that actually ruined the whole experience! I felt like I forced her into it or somehting - I felt.... guilty I guess??! What an idiot, it was just a dream! But I just couldn't help feeling bad about it (felt DAMN good for a while, though!) It fascinates me when people behave like contemptable brutes and then excuse themselves with "it was only a dream". Well, it was only the signature of your personality. It was only the essense of who you are as a person. What it shows is that everyday of your life you are not truly being yourself, but only behave within Civilized bounds because you must be afraid of being punished like some child. You have not taken responsiblitiy or ownership of Proper Behavior, but as soon as you are free of restraint you resort to rape. "Only a dream", indeed! It is only your self. Dear Kramari, You are wondering in a very low Dream Scene. You are in a sleazy Port Town in the Dream World and wonder why all the female denizens are sluts and whores. The real question should be "what are you doing there?" In Dreams, True Religion, and Mythology you will find that Females are the Agency of all Active Spiritual Advance. They bestow all Spiritual Power and from them flows All Grace. But you will no none of that higher stuff while you treat them at the lowest possible level. In my very first Spiritual Dream of which I have any recall, I was told by the Oracle, a Tall and Stately Female, halfway up the Spiritual Mountain, that "only those at the bottom cannot go to the top". It was a warning against attacking every Female in my dreams with sexual assualt. To have sex with them quite precludes or excludes whatever higher gifts they may have to bear.

[SirDreamAlot]

Hmm Leo i don't quite understand what are you talking about. What do you mean by "Spiritual Dream" ? what kind of a dream is it ? and how do you know it's not just a "regular" dream ? Can you give some reference to what you talk about ? Sounds interesting, though not so realistic..

[wasup]

Hey Leo I combined your double post Anyways, Leo, you say that is your "true self" about what you do in your dream. Well that may be true in some cases, it is not always true. Imagine video games, you can go and kill someone all you want, does that mean that you have obsessions for killing and want to be a hitman? No, it doesn't. It is the same way with dreams.

[irishcream]

i've only done that once...it was good, but i can think of better things to do...sorry, but i haven't wanted to repeat the experience... i'd rather get the messages from my dreams, and grow into the person that i am supposed to be...

[kramari]

Originally posted by irishcream i've only done that once...it was good, but i can think of better things to do...sorry, but i haven't wanted to repeat the experience... i'd rather get the messages from my dreams, and grow into the person that i am supposed to be... I'd love to have a massage in my LDs j/k I moving on to deeper things now, something like the bottomless pit I think that's deep enough.

[irishcream]

i'm tending to use lucid dreaming now if i want to give my brain a break if you like...kind of like playing a computer game after you've done your homework...

[TygrHawk]

Originally posted by Leo Volont What it shows is that everyday of your life you are not truly being yourself, but only behave within Civilized bounds because you must be afraid of being punished like some child. I think that pretty much describes all "civilized" people. Maybe not fearing punishment, exactly, but we supress our baser instincts and desires because we know that it's wrong. What's so wrong with letting some of that out in a dream?

[nerve]

nothing, he's just out of his mind

[Death-Wuad]

I avoid sex in dreams. It always wakes me up, which makes it just a waste of time to even try. But if it doesn't wake you up... go for it. When I was trying to get dream-flucked, however, I found that girls wouldn't sha-bang-bang unless I told them to.

[Aethereal_Pellucidity]

Please don't take offence with me for saying this -- I don't use obscene language unless I mean it LITERALLY -- but YOU GUYS ARE F-ED UP! Like I said, I mean it literally. Maybe it's because I'm a girl, and maybe it's because I'm sixteen, but I think there is something seriously wrong if you have to do that both in waking and in sleep in order to get enjoyment out of life. My question for you (and everyone else out there) is this -- DON'T YOU CARRY ANY SORT OF ETHICAL CODE WITH YOU WHEN YOU LUCID-DREAM? And if you only use some of your waking ethics, then how do you choose which are okay to use and which are not? I'm seriously not understanding the logic of what you people are doing to your poor DCs. That has to be SERIOUSLY bad for your Karmas.

[Yume]

Originally posted by Aethereal_Pellucidity Please don't take offence with me for saying this -- I don't use obscene language unless I mean it LITERALLY -- but YOU GUYS ARE F-ED UP! Like I said, I mean it literally. Maybe it's because I'm a girl, and maybe it's because I'm sixteen, but I think there is something seriously wrong if you have to do that both in waking and in sleep in order to get enjoyment out of life. My question for you (and everyone else out there) is this -- DON'T YOU CARRY ANY SORT OF ETHICAL CODE WITH YOU WHEN YOU LUCID-DREAM? And if you only use some of your waking ethics, then how do you choose which are okay to use and which are not? I'm seriously not understanding the logic of what you people are doing to your poor DCs. That has to be SERIOUSLY bad for your Karmas. Do the DC's really care that much? Maybe they liked it. I had dreams having sex with a male or female every once in a while. I feel relieved when I get to have sex with them. In fact it is the same male and same female every time. It is because I love them. I find that when I have sex with them in my dreams it helps build the bond that I share with them in real life.It is better to get those desires out in a dream rather than forcing them upon someone in real life. You really are basing your post on opinion.

[NightGiant]

i don't see what the problem is. it's a dream, it's not real. you're not hurting anyone, you're really just masterbating. LD's are like really advance video games, they're not real, and hence you can do what you like in them. the reason most people have a code of ethics in real life is because (a) they don't want to be punished and (B) they don't want to hurt other people. but in an LD you will neither be punished nor hurt anyone else, so . . . what's the big deal?

[InTheMoment]

Leo wrote: It fascinates me when people behave like contemptable brutes and then excuse themselves with \"it was only a dream\". Well, it was only the signature of your personality. It was only the essense of who you are as a person. What it shows is that everyday of your life you are not truly being yourself, but only behave within Civilized bounds because you must be afraid of being punished like some child. You have not taken responsiblitiy or ownership of Proper Behavior, but as soon as you are free of restraint you resort to rape. \"Only a dream\", indeed! It is only your self. [/b] It fascinates me when people place themselves on a higher moral pedestal than everyone else and then tries to reinforce their self righteous opinion with metaphorical mumbo jumbo. How many thoughts a day do you have about something that may be illegal or immoral? How many of those fleeting thoughts do you act upon? Does having said thoughts make you a criminal or heathen? If so, then lock me up now and throw away the key, because if you saw the thoughts that lurk in my head you wouldn't want me among the general populace.

[Josh_Mac]

Originally posted by InTheMoment Leo wrote: It fascinates me when people behave like contemptable brutes and then excuse themselves with \"it was only a dream\". Well, it was only the signature of your personality. It was only the essense of who you are as a person. What it shows is that everyday of your life you are not truly being yourself, but only behave within Civilized bounds because you must be afraid of being punished like some child. You have not taken responsiblitiy or ownership of Proper Behavior, but as soon as you are free of restraint you resort to rape. \"Only a dream\", indeed! It is only your self. It fascinates me when people place themselves on a higher moral pedestal than everyone else and then tries to reinforce their self righteous opinion with metaphorical mumbo jumbo. How many thoughts a day do you have about something that may be illegal or immoral? How many of those fleeting thoughts do you act upon? Does having said thoughts make you a criminal or heathen? If so, then lock me up now and throw away the key, because if you saw the thoughts that lurk in my head you wouldn't want me among the general populace. [/b] Well said!! *yawn* I am getting bored already of LD sex topics and i'm still new here and I cant have sex in my LDs maybe it's because my consciouns (sp?) knows I'm too young and wakes me up, damn I thought I got rid of that thing

[Alric]

The reason to have a code of ethics is so that your nice to other people and don't hurt them. If there is no one around and your not hurting people then it doesnt matter. Having a code of ethics simply to limit yourself when there are no postive or negative consequences is just silly.

[42]

I always wake up if I try to have lucid sex. With my girlfriend or otherwise. And a lot of times, I'm not very lucid and not very conscious of my morals/ethics. It's more like the thought came to my mind and became reality before I really thought about what was going on. And then when i do think about what's about to happen (aka lucid sex) something in me stops myself. Probably cuz I become more lucid/conscious and therefore my superego kicks in. That's my guess anyway. A couple times, a while back, I actually was able to have dream sex (not neccessarily lucid) but often times that person would turn into a demon/monster. So that would either wake me or cue me in to lucidity.

[Outbound]

I've never had a LD where I was actually in control so I can't say much about what I'd do or not, but I think some of the people on this board are being too self-righteous and anal. There are things that we don't do in real life, not only because of fear of the punishment that may befall on us but also out of basic human decency. I'd never rape someone, not just because of the possibilty of me going to jail but because I could never inflict such emotional and physical damage to a person just to satisfy a personal urge. I couldn't live wiht myself if I did. That is why an act like that is wrong, because of the pain and suffering inflicted on another human being who did nothing to deserve it, and that's why it's against the law as well. In dreams, you're not hurting anyone, not even yourself. If you do rape someone in a dream, at worst you're raping yourself. There are no real people in your dreams, just constructs of people based on your perceptions, they are all conceptual not concrete, they aren't even "they". To paraphrase someone on this post, they're as real as the video game characters you kill hundreds of times.

[starflames]

Everyone is entitled to their own private world of LDs- be what they be. It is because it isn't real, that we tend to do things that otherwise wouldn't do in real life. Get a grip- it's only make belief. Who ever hasn't had a sexual fantasy at some point in their life, regardless of how big or small it may have been, is free to cast the first stone. Why should I always act normal in my LD- when I already do that in real life and wouldn't have it any other way. In an LD state- there are no laws or bounderies. You are free to do as you please. And the way I act in a LD never carries over into my real life. My goodness, it's not real. If there's a problem understanding that- then that's where guilt may lie. Do I like sex? Very much so. So then in an LD state I will experiment with this in any way I desire- I have this freedom. And aside from the life-like feeling, nothing else is real. And I understand that. Do I like to go to church? Yes. But I wouldn't do that in a LD. When I become lucid, I'm there in this dream and well aware of everything around me, including the realization that it's not real, but only a dream. I wouldn't waste my time attempting to attain to a higher spirtual level in some world that I am well aware is not real- but only some fairyland far away in a dream world. My advice then, is to seek your spiritual self in the real world, where it may be found and leave dreamland for your fun, pleasure and fantasies. But of course, again, everyone is entitled to venture as they please. But if you do one thing and someone else does something else in their LDs- no judgement should be passed. In my world, I rule.... and you, in yours...... So be it. Sweet Dreams to all. Starflames

[Gwendolyn]

but as soon as you are free of restraint you resort to rape. [/b] I don't think that dreaming about sex is an especially bad thing.....I mean, it's in your head. I could not believe that there is a person on Dreamviews that hasn't thought or dreamed about sex.......Is thinking about having sex with someone rape? You didn't ask the person who you were thinking about if you could have sex with them in your thoughts. Why is a dream any different? People are human.......Personally, I don't sit around dreaming about sex all the time, but if some people do, it's their right...I mean, why not be the king or queen of the kindom of your mind?

[Mystical_Journey]

why not be the king or queen of the kindom of your mind?[/b] Gwendolyn, have you seen the movie "The Cell"?