Thread: i need a swift kick in the A.....

It can get more obvious than that. Don't beat yourself up over it. Keep trying.

Originally posted by DvDGuY
i been working overnights, tha tmeans i get to sleep during teh day and when that happens my dreams are all over teh place its frustrating but fun, except for today. i had a dream where everything i touched broke. starting with my napsack i take to work, then a hat, the television was next, then my computer i knew it was friday the 13th so i just thought it was an unlucky day exteremly unlucky, and i even said to myself, wow shit like this only happens in dreams. and i still didn't clue in . i should get a DC to kick me in teh ass next time i make a comment like that with out realizng I'm dreaming, Maybe that will make me realize I'm dreaming.

anyone ever had somethign like this and how t can be prevented? it really pissed me off when i woke up for some reason.

You know, Dreams happen for a reason. It is a great universal dream motif to lose things, and apparently to break things, in dreams. Such dreams prepare us to accept our own mortality when the time comes. Utlimately we lose our bodies.

so what good would it have done for you to accept your losses after you realized that it being a dream you were actually losing nothing? Yet many of us learn to accept these dream losses the same way you have -- to suggest it must be a dream without fully believing it. While still in denial we seek away to explain away our loss.

Eventually we must condition ourselves into the correct response at losing things in our dreams, and that is to simply say "Well, screw it then", and to move forward toward what is new.

As for Lucidity -- despite the great propaganda to the effect that we can lose little clues within dreams to help us to 'realize' we are dreaming, we actually become Lucid because we break through that Energy Consciousness Threshold point where Lucidity becomes possible. Lucidity is not a state of mind so much as it is an Intensity Level. Haven't we all had dreams which were just barely Lucid but fell back into ordinary dreaming? There, the State of Mind of Knowing did little good, because the Consciousness Energy was not there to support the Lucid State.

Have no regrets. That is what your dreams are instructing.

That dremad seemed symbolic. Mbay your mind wnated you just to have the dream rather than become lucid in it.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
As for Lucidity -- despite the great propaganda to the effect that we can lose little clues within dreams to help us to 'realize' we are dreaming, we actually become Lucid because we break through that Energy Consciousness Threshold point where Lucidity becomes possible. Lucidity is not a state of mind so much as it is an Intensity Level. Haven't we all had dreams which were just barely Lucid but fell back into ordinary dreaming? There, the State of Mind of Knowing did little good, because the Consciousness Energy was not there to support the Lucid State.

Have no regrets. That is what your dreams are instructing.

What are you talking about with this energy stuff? Is it like the astral/spiritual energy, or just plain old mental energy? And what does that say about dreams that I have had that were very very powerful and clear, even when I woke up, and seemed to last forever, but did not become lucid? And then there are the techniques for making an LD more real and strong, so it does not fade away. Is that generating this "Consciousness Energy" out of nowhere? Or is that just a philosophical point of view that is not neccessicarily not true but, as an applied theory, works?

And for an intrepretation of your dream, DvDGuY, I'd recommend a few minutes of introspection, thinking about why you were thinking that. It usually works for me, and it is coming from your own mind... As for what Leo said, it is an idea.

I think i have been having those dreams because i just moved houses and the stress of it making sure nothing breaks probably stuck in my head. but what i think is that my subconscience is keeping me from becoming lucid for some reason, there have been a few instances where a dream character wakes me up just when i'm realizing i'm becoming lucid, one even screamed at me once to wake up. another thing is that just when i start feeling the signs of WILD both arms get itchy at the same spot everynight. any suggestions in how coming in terms with your subconsience?

A psychotherapist would probably work... I can just see it:
therapist: "Hello, so what do you need help with?"
you (or me) "Um... I'm having problems with my dreams..."
therapist "What kind of problems?"
you "I can't stay awake in them..."
I bet that's not something therapists see every day.

Psychotherapy is not just for insane people, they see very normal people that want to make themselves better. So if you have a few extra bucks after moving, you might want to try it out

Beyond that... I can't think of anything