You can do LD in 15minutes....

[Randall]

Ok I've tried this for 3 times in the past 2 days and every time it worked. Every time I did it I came to the part when I started spinning around and could feel how am transiting between reality and dream.And everytime I would get interrupted by some noise or something from real world. I just cleared my mind,and thought of nothing.Just about dreaming.I was very relaxed and my hear beats got really slow. But I wasn't able to LD yet....but hey I'm happy with the work I've done so far! So my question iso we really need that WILD or MILD or whatever technique to start LD?

[Xeroer]

I've done similar things, although mine is pretty much a WILD (just laying there, relaxing, counting your breathing, trying to stay awake). Either what happens is that, it just doesn't work, as in, you never will progress to the LD stage, or you will, it will just take longer than 15 minutes (varies depending on the person). I think I fall asleep most of the time I do this, so I'll try to stay awake next time and report on it.