Red Bull

[Kitti]

Does anyone know the exact effects of vitamin B6? There is a whole lot in Red Bull and i heard its supposed to make you lucid in dreams and stuff. I bought the bottle of vitamin B6 and took some before i went to bed. I ENDED UP HAVING FREAKY DREAMS. Did the same happen to you?

[Howie]

Originally posted by Kitti Does anyone know the exact effects of vitamin B6? There is a whole lot in Red Bull and i heard its supposed to make you lucid in dreams and stuff. I bought the bottle of vitamin B6 and took some before i went to bed. I ENDED UP HAVING FREAKY DREAMS. Did the same happen to you? It seems that B6 does help with lucid dreams. Maybe not in such a direct manner but the B vitaman in general helps with cognitive functioning, wich in turn may help with dream recall and such. But red bull has a very high level of caffiene in it. It is a stimulant. So I myself would not be able to go to sleep anytime soon after drinking red bull.

[WaaayOutThere]

I just had a Red Bull and am about to go to bed. (Caffeine doesn't keep me up.) I hope this produces soemthing. If so, I'll have to buy more...

[TheUnknown]

I don't really see the short-term affects of B6, but I've been taking 50mg twice a day for about the past week, and every night things improve. It may have a good deal to do with increasing seratonin levels.

[Merck]

Originally posted by TheUnknown ran out of the closet and began whipping a baby goat and then I don't really see the short-term affects of B6, but I've been taking 50mg twice a day for about the past week, and every night things improve. It may have a good deal to do with increasing seratonin levels. If you want to increase 5-HT(serotonin) levels then 5-HTP(5-hydroxytryptophan) would be a good way to do so. I haven't personally tried using Vitamin B and B6 supplements but I might as well give them a try since so many people have noticed a difference. Unfortunately I don't know of any studies that have been done using these versus placebo. If anyone can point me to a link that has a study like this I'll dance at your wedding.

[Kitti]

when i had the bottle of B6 i was kind of unsure of when to take it . Should i take it right before i sleep because it takes awhile to digest it or should i set my alarm clock then take it to experience better dreams around the REM stage?

[irishcream]

I've been taking a vitamin B complex for the last six weeks or so...i'm not sure how much B6 it has in it, but i have noticed a considerable improvement in the clarity of my recall. I don't know how much that has to do with it, but it seems to be working. And i wasn't taking it for the purpose of dreaming.

[CatLover]

Also isn't there some kind of... something. I can't really describe it. It's sort of like a state that you put your mind in where if you read something (IE taking vitamins makes you immortal) then you think that it will happen. Like stated above, If you take the vitamins and you think that it will make you immortal, your mind is placed into a state where there is no way to change it. I cannot remember what it is and I am banging my head against the wall for it. -sigh-

[irishcream]

I think you're thinking of the placebo effect...in that if you believe something is going to work for long enough, your brain generates something to make you think that it has worked... or something like that...

[CatLover]

YES! OMG! Thank you! I can stop banging my head against the wall now... yes.. the Placebo Effect. A while back, some scientists did some tests with sugar pills... where they took these people that *think* they have a problem, we'll say the flu, and they get this effect on them that makes them keep thinking they have the problem until they take some medicine. Now obviously, the doctors can prescribe them real medicine for now reason, so they prescribe them sugar pills. It has been proven that this works, in some cases. I guess you would call it a mental condition. The patients/Guinea Pigs (hehe) responded in receiving the sugar pills. It's an odd thing, it is. So maybe you could just be getting the Placebo Effect with the Red Bull? Because maybe you read somewhere that it does these things, but maybe it was a hoax. Perhaps... -dun dun dunnnn- heh

[Gargen]

Originally posted by WaaayOutThere I just had a Red Bull and am about to go to bed. (Caffeine doesn't keep me up.) I hope this produces soemthing. If so, I'll have to buy more... yea caffine doesnt do shit to me either but if you wanna have some freaky dreams i suggest nutmeg (it has a marijuana like effect hehe) but it lasts for about 36 hours and taste nasty i suggest 15 grams to start

[Kitti]

Its weird because when i take B6 it doesnt really help me recall my dreams any better. But one night i am gonna eat cheese and nutmeg and take a whole bunch of B6 pills(not to much) and see how crazy my dreams get.

[Alaurast78]

You may also want to try melatonin. If I were you I would only take B6 because it is good for me and not for dream affect. To much of anything can be dangerous. There have been many threads about this. No worries though every time it is talked about some new interesting info comes out. I just believe that we don't need supplements to help us dream, but sometimes the DO help. There are many ways to get the same affect without it though. Now on your topic of Red Bull... just the caffeine alone can help you recall your dreams more. Your mind will be more active so I think that it is more likely that you will become lucid. I once had a very cool lucid dream after drinking a Pepsi. Don't know if that was the reason but maybe! Sweet Dreams!

[TheUnknown]

I want to update on my status.. still taking 50mg twice a day. Last night my dreams were extremely vivid.. while not lucid, I still recalled 6 or 7 dreams. The B6 has been working wonders, I've just found however that on a short-term basis.. even taking 500mg in a night is not going to help. A lower regular dose appears to be doing the trick. Thought you guys might wanna know.

[WaaayOutThere]

No effects from Red Bull. Heading to kitchen cabinet for Nutmeg. Thanks!

[irishcream]

re the nutmeg, what do you do? Eat it off a spoon, or make tea with it? And regards caffeine...i can't have coffee three hours before bed, it keeps me awake, and messes with my recall... I also find that if i'm really tired, i can't recall so well either... Does anyone else find this? I think i'm playing catch up from Sunday night, i was up till well past midnight, and then didn't sleep so well...

[Carpath]

You shouldn't take too much of B6, because it messes your dreams. I've read that one pill before going to sleep might be too much (depends on how much B6 the pill includes).

[Kitti]

Hehe just last night i sprinkled nutmeg all over my pillow and on my tounge . I put alot it tasted weird. but i recalled at least five dreams that night.

[irishcream]

over your pillow? that would make me sneeze if i tried that... someone was saying fifteen mg...is that all at once...or three doses of five mg?

[Sam]

Originally posted by irishcream over your pillow? that would make me sneeze if i tried that... someone was saying fifteen mg...is that all at once...or three doses of five mg? I thought he said 15 GRAMS, but that might have been a typo. I think I'll try some B6 next week if my recall doesn't get much better. Although caffeine doesn't really wake me up, I don't want to drink something like red bull. Just the thought of an energy drink makes my penis smaller.

[Tornado Joe]

Careful with the Nutmeg shit, folks! When I was in college they hauled out one of my friend's roomates to the hospital from a Nutmeg overdose. Couldn't imagine there could be such an effect from something you use for cooking, but he learned the hard way. Everytime I see it on my spice rack I think of that night. It is very tempting, though.....hmmmm

[irishcream]

err...fifteen grams is a hell of a lot...fifteen milligrams is nothing...i'm just intrigued as to how you take it...still no one has told me...

[Sam]

Originally posted by irishcream err...fifteen grams is a hell of a lot...fifteen milligrams is nothing...i'm just intrigued as to how you take it...still no one has told me... He said nutmeg "tastes nasty," so that's a pretty clear sign that you eat it. If you're asking when to take it, or what to take it with, that I don't know. But I do know that 15 grams is a lot, though you can check yourself, he said 15 grams. Maybe 15 centigrams or decigrams? I honestly don't know many people who use those units, though. Most prefer milligrams for things not large enough to be measured in grams.

[OpheliaBlue]

Yeah, b6 and/or caffeine before bed will give me some whacky dreams alright. I find that b6 doesn't really help me attain lucidity, but it really improves my recall, which indirectly helps with lucidity, for obvious reasons. But Red Bull?!?!?! Bleeeeech...it tastes like liquid bubble gum.

[Matchbook]

Nutmeg in higher dose is actually a drug under the classification of "Deleriant" and can cause a lot of crazy thinking and sometimes hallucinations and other weird things, so don't try taking large amounts of it. A normal "drug dose" of it is usually 3 grams or more. But if someone wants to test out its capabilities at a dose between 1/2 gram to 1 gram, that is fine. There's really not a risk of overdosing unless you take 10 grams or more, but again, stick to under 1 gram.