Just now: Is it just a coincidence or more?

[L2006]

So anyway, I was listening to one of those CD's that are supposed to help you have a lucid dream. And I listened to it, closing my eyes, trying to go fully asleep. But, my mother was playing some tunes for about an hour, and also because I wasn't really tired so I never became fully asleep. So, some reason, I just got so sick of not going into full sleep that my eyes just bolted open. So, anyway, I decided to go downstairs and chill with my mom. Music is blaring out of the speakers and I see my mom asleep with her head down on the kitchen counter So, I turn off the stereo and wake her up. She says she was going to go upstairs, but that she was so tired, she just fell asleep at the kitchen counter. (Note: This doesn't happen everyday to my mom, and it's not really weird, if I'm making it sound weird) Anyway, so she said that she was having a dream, and the immediate thing I asked was "What was it about?". After asking that question I figured she might not want to tell me, and she was looking up to the ceiling and maybe trying to avoid answering. So, I changed the subject and said goodnight to her and went upstairs. All, I'm wondering is: Is it a coincidence or did me trying to have a dream trigger her to have one, because I wasn't succesful? Am I looking too much into this? This all happend about twenty to thirty minutes ago.

[Leo Volont]

I actually think that it is sweet that you and your mother have so much sympathy for each other. Family IS family and there is a great deal of connectiveness between the souls of family members. We need to remember that in large part INDIVIDUALITY is a contrived legal fiction. As children of our Parents, we are part of our parents. On some spiritual level, there is hardly any separation. Ofcourse, as maturity progresses, the ties that bind becoming looser and the strings that run from parent to child have less and less pull. But the love a Mother has for a Child can hardly be underestimated and so any phenomena that rests upon the sympathy between mother and child should be given every benefit of the doubt.

[PutBoy]

Might as well be a coincidence, as can everything else. But if this doesn't happen everyday for her ie falling asleep like that and having a dream, but did when you were trying to a) fall asleep B) have a dream. So if you are a believer, there you go. This kind of things makes you think about shared dreams doesn't it? didn't they try this on this forum, or was it another one? They all decided to, when they became lucid, go to a certain place and see if they met someone else from the forum in their dream. Maybe you could try to meet your mom in your dream one time and see if she dreams the same thing? Since you have already "proven" to have that kind of bond it could be done.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by PutBoy Maybe you could try to meet your mom in your dream one time and see if she dreams the same thing? Since you have already \"proven\" to have that kind of bond it could be done. The problem with agreeing to meet in a pre-arranged place is that it more or less describes the content of the dream before the dream. it destroys much of the credibility you could have that it was actually a shared dream. Both persons could simply have dreams that they met the other person at a pre-arranged location, the other person being an empty and lifeless dream character. However, the situation could be saved if each person agreed to memorize a different passage from literature, without telling the other person what their quote would be. Then, when notes are compared the next day, each person would be able to say something like "You tried to quote from "Tail of Two Cities" but you stuttered and got it wrong". "Oh, and what were you doing? Mellville? Please, nobody quotes 'Moby Dick' anymore." Then, you would know that you certainly shared a dream. Perhaps mothers and young children could do such a thing together. But after a certain age, children feel awkward asking to play such games with mom.

[PutBoy]

Originally posted by Leo Volont But after a certain age, children feel awkward asking to play such games with mom. either that or the child is totally messed up ;D

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by PutBoy either that or the child is totally messed up ;D You can read any book on childhood development and never come across the conclusion that a child must be 'messed up' for wishing to have separate activities from Mum. Children, whether one appreciates it or not, feel a need to arrive at some sense of their own being.. some assertion of their independence, some manifestation of their budding individuality. Indeed the true problem would be one of arrested development if a child were to remain tied to his or her mother's apron strings too long.

[Universal Mind]

Lou Gherig died of Lou Gherig's Disease. Coincidence? Or should he have seen it coming?

[SantaDreamsToo]

well I dont see whats so amazing about this.... besides its impossible to have a dream after only a few mins of sleep...

[L2006]

Originally posted by SantaDreamsToo well I dont see whats so amazing about this.... besides its impossible to have a dream after only a few mins of sleep... I never said it was amazing. And I was sleeping for more than an hour.

[Artelis]

Originally posted by SantaDreamsToo well I dont see whats so amazing about this.... besides its impossible to have a dream after only a few mins of sleep... Wrong again ol' buddy. It has been proven that premature REM sleep can be aquired within' the first ten or so minutes of sleep as a left-over of waking from a previous REM stage somewhere further than seven or eight hours of sleep. Snap.. how else could those crazy dreams that seem to happen instantaneously within the first two minutes of sleep happen? Case solved. Scooby snacks for all!