ehehm...Attention all LDers of 1 month or more...

[seven3865]

Hello everyone, Here is a quote for Wikipedia (the free encyclopedia): "Many people report having experienced a lucid dream during their lives, often in childhood. However, even with training, achieving lucid dreams on a regular basis is uncommon and can be difficult." II probably only have a couple of Lucid dreams every six months (I just started here a few days ago) and I am currently absorbing what knowledge I can of the techniques and intend to practice them for as long as it takes. I just wanted to know (and I think others who are new to lucid techniques would also like to know) what the success rate is like. I'd love to hear from anyone who has been implementing the techniques (DILD, WILD, etc.) for a significant amount of time (a month or more). For those of you who have Lucid dreams all the time (several per week), did that begin after you learned the techniques? How many LDs did you have before? How long did it take you to reach your current level? For those of you who only have a small number of LDs (maybe just a few per month or less), how long have you been working with the techniques? Do you feel you've been dilligent? Basically I'm curious as to how much the techniques play into LD success and the importance of natural ability. Thanks!

[nightowl]

well...i dont have a lot of lucid dreams..maybe 1-3 times a week. I've been "trying" for about 2 years. I say "trying" because i kept stoping and starting due to me being real busy. I've tried quite a few techniques and over time yoyu find out which one best suites you because not all of them will work well for you. WBTB is for me. Over the months, i do admit that the more experience you have, the easier it is to attain lucidity and you'll notice a change in your dream behavior for the better eh...just keep trying

[seven3865]

Originally posted by nightowl well...i dont have a lot of lucid dreams..maybe 1-3 times a week. I've been \"trying\" for about 2 years. 1 to 3 seems like a a pretty decent amount to me. May I ask how many you were having before learning the techniques?

[nightowl]

before i did the WBTB technique? well...near the beginning I think i was having 1 every 2 weeks...or maybe it was a month..not sure..i cant remember...i think it was that stage that i noticed my dreams started changing and i started to gain more control/confidence, yet not be lucid at the same time. i was pretty satisified enough at that point because a lot of dreams back then had me with superpowers

[tryured]

I've been going at it for pretty close to a year now. When I first started out I was absorbing all the information just like you, and got so hyped I had an LD in the first two weeks. Then for the next 6 months after that I probably averaged 1 LD a month. For the last 3 months though I've been having a few one week then none the next. Well WILDS just havn't worked for me. The times I've become lucid are either from WBTB, really long sleepins or they just occur spontaneously in the middle of dreams.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by seven3865 \"Many people report having experienced a lucid dream during their lives, often in childhood. However, even with training, achieving lucid dreams on a regular basis is uncommon and can be difficult.\" I've been lucid dreaming for ... I guess more than twenty years... and yes, "lucid dreams on a regular basis is uncommon and difficult". What I suppose is that the Higher Dreaming Mind -- that Intelligence which creates our Dreams -- is extremely reluctant to entirely surrender all Dream Content over to the Dreamer. Yet an occassional Lucid Dream is not begrudged. I've noticed that if one becomes too successful with certain Lucid Dreaming techniques, then the Dreaming Mind will actually implement tactics to protect it 'turf' -- shaking off Lucidity in the dreamer with 'false awakenings' or by keeping the ambient energy of the dream so low that lucidity can't threshold. Often Lucid Dreamers overly obsess on Lucidity and Control. They fail to consider that ordinary dreams may have value. Their Dreaming Mind is so insistant on protecting ordinary dreaming, that it should make one consider that the Dreaming Mind may actually have a significant motive for its actions. So, over the years, I've learned to trust my dreaming. Many of my most important dreams have NOT been lucid. And the Dreams that are Lucid, I'm careful to measure the amount of Control I evert over Dream Content. One should dream in partnership with the Higher Dream Mind, and NOT as an adversary to it. When one seems to be ever attacking and destroying one's dreams -- is that not like the 10% of the Brain attempting to annihilate the other 90%. When the lower self succeeds in eradicating the Higher Self, what is left but a low life.

[Alex D]

Originally posted by Leo Volont I've been lucid dreaming for ... I guess more than twenty years... and yes, \"lucid dreams on a regular basis is uncommon and difficult\". What I suppose is that the Higher Dreaming Mind -- that Intelligence which creates our Dreams -- is extremely reluctant to entirely surrender all Dream Content over to the Dreamer. Yet an occassional Lucid Dream is not begrudged. I've noticed that if one becomes too successful with certain Lucid Dreaming techniques, then the Dreaming Mind will actually implement tactics to protect it 'turf' -- shaking off Lucidity in the dreamer with 'false awakenings' or by keeping the ambient energy of the dream so low that lucidity can't threshold. Often Lucid Dreamers overly obsess on Lucidity and Control. They fail to consider that ordinary dreams may have value. Their Dreaming Mind is so insistant on protecting ordinary dreaming, that it should make one consider that the Dreaming Mind may actually have a significant motive for its actions. So, over the years, I've learned to trust my dreaming. Many of my most important dreams have NOT been lucid. And the Dreams that are Lucid, I'm careful to measure the amount of Control I evert over Dream Content. One should dream in partnership with the Higher Dream Mind, and NOT as an adversary to it. When one seems to be ever attacking and destroying one's dreams -- is that not like the 10% of the Brain attempting to annihilate the other 90%. When the lower self succeeds in eradicating the Higher Self, what is left but a low life. I must say in some ways I agree with you there Leo, however there are some things that I don't. Firstly 'The higher draming mind', honestly don't believe this exists, perhaps you're getting confused with the subconcious, which is the widely acepted theor as to what makes our dreams. What you said on it trying to stop you from doing the techniques too much, again I believe over use of them can be problematic, this is, in my opinion because if we get lucid through the samwe technique over and over again, we get lazy and no longer put in the effort, thus they stop working. What I do however agree with is too much emphasis is put on control and lucidity, I love my non lucid dreams as much as my lucid dreams. They tend to take place in more imaginative worlds etc, which inspires me in my waking life.