I do no know anyone who has achieved absoloute total control of LDing, i think it may be imposible, i think total control would mean that if you chose to you did not wake up. As i am an agnostic im not sure what to believe about all this shutting out god and declaration of rebelion against heaven is all about... bit extreme me thinks, if you can achieve total control it does not necessarily mean you are shuting god out, rebelling agaisnt heaven etc... (providing there is one) it shows dedication and extrodinary self disipline nd i aplaud ny 1 who has done it and encourage the rest to seek it.