Have you ever seen someone RC in real life?

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Originally Posted by Laurelindo

No, everyone around me seems on a hurry and are so absent-minded that they startle when someone comes up behind them, and almost everyone seems very uncomfortable when I mention lucid dreaming to them.

I honestly doubt that around 17% of the world population experiences lucid dreams more than once per month - 17‰ sounds more likely.

I do know that a few of my family members and relatives at least know about lucid dreaming and are mildly fascinated by them, though.

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That sounds just like my story! A few of my freinds do lucid dream once a month, and they are not LDers, and my brother really liked it when I told him about LDing 3 months ago. we both started practicing together at that time, and he has had so far 5 LDs, 1 more than me, and I'm doing all the practicing!! Anyway, in my culture (Islam), people tend to use dreams for precognition, so they really have another opinion about LDing (they won't accept it, and always think it's useless) , so no, no one ever does rcs in my non-LDers world. I feel so lonely:(

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Originally Posted by Wanderingoak

Apparently he has no interest in flying around and all that awesome stuff... I have no idea why.

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No one knows the potentials of LDing. They either think it feels like a regular dream,thus very dull and any experience is dull, or they just don't believe that LDing is a way to living great fantasies:D, because its too of a simple and available way and everyone would be doing it. If you read "Discovering the world of Lucid Dreaming" book, you would known that I mean schema that these people have(chapter 5). Its up to us LDers to the message of LDing to the world! How? I don't know:(

lets all wear shirts which say "I'm a LD" , LD not Lucid Dreamer so only real LDers would understand that. what do you think? I wouldn't feel lonely about LDing anymore:banana:

It might even be a way to prep myself for LD - to tell people about it - I have no success lately - but I anyway think, that explaining it to others, who want to listen, is a great way to include it into your present life.

Just yesterday I met a mate - who suddenly could remember about having lucids as a child - but not realizing the full potential of it.
He was quite rapt to hear me tell him all sorts of things - wants to start a DJ, maybe come on here.
Like in most these cases - flying seems to be about the only thing, that all have done in childhood-LDs - or at least all that is remembered..

He says he can´t remember any dreams he has at the moment - maybe that is the biggest hindering-factor ..?
Not even getting anything from their normal dreams, which could foster curiosity.

unfortunately, i haven't met one single person in my area that does RC's or is a lucid dreamer.. I wish lucid dreaming was a compulsory subject in school. A LOT of people really have no idea what they're missing.. :(

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Originally Posted by LouaiB

lets all wear shirts which say "I'm a LD" , LD not Lucid Dreamer so only real LDers would understand that. what do you think? I wouldn't feel lonely about LDing anymore:banana:

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Great idea! :P

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Originally Posted by Joram

unfortunately, i haven't met one single person in my area that does RC's or is a lucid dreamer.. I wish lucid dreaming was a compulsory subject in school. A LOT of people really have no idea what they're missing.. :(

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In my opinion, one of the very coolest and most unique realizations in a lucid dream is that moment when you become fully aware of yourself, and can start acting and walking around just like in real life.
Being lucid in the sense that you simply realize that you are dreaming is certainly really cool, but that point when you start to actually become able to act like in waking life, take walks in the dreamworld, and run around and touch objects - that is in my mind probably one of the very coolest things about lucid dreaming.
Being able to act and move around in the dreamworld while at the same time understanding that it is not the physical world is an incredibly bizarre and unique feeling.

I've never seen anyone else do a reality check in real life, but I haven't really been looking for it. Next time I'm people watching I'll have to keep my eyes open for it.

You guys should see me. I order burrito in a Corner store busy street. And then you have to wait in line and i was doing RCs there.
The looking at hands and counting fingers. But like i said im' a long time loner who doesn't care about doing weird things that other people do. So i dont feel anything embarrasment about it. so i just do it.

I know other people have friends and all that and are social and don't want to look socially awkward so they don't do stuff like that in public

Nope, never noticed anybody RCing. And sometimes, I do pay attention, if I catch somebody. How I would ask him "do you RC?", and how I would get myself out of trouble if they ask me wth do I mean.

I do RC in public - looking at hands and counting fingers. And on occasion I mumble mantras, but only when I'm in super "I don't give a crap" state of mind.

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Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat

I only do the nose-pinch and hand RCs in public. It's still a bit odd to see someone intently staring at their hands while trying to push a finger through your palm.

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Me too. Nose pinch is easy to explain, lots of people kind of itch their faces. But looking at hands held out in front of your face with spread fingers like I do is pretty hard to explain away :). I do them anyway.

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Originally Posted by LouaiB

lets all wear shirts which say "I'm a LD" , LD not Lucid Dreamer so only real LDers would understand that. what do you think? I wouldn't feel lonely about LDing anymore:banana:

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I believe a printing like "Lucidity Forever" should work just as well;
most ignorant people would probably just believe that it was some new age hippie thing like "seeing the light", and only real lucid dreamers would truly understand the meaning of the word "lucidity".

Nice ideas Laurelindo and LouaiB ! Interesting twist on this already interesting thread.

The only thing, and i know this for sure, is that there are many lucid dreamers who don´t call it lucid dreaming, or lucidity. So, they have no way to figure out what that means in the shirt. Once i began talking with a friend only to find out he had had lucid nightmares since his childhood, and he still has, but he didn´t know anything about the terminology and techniques of LDing. He told me that he found strange that people don´t remember their dreams. I just recommended him to visit DV ! It´s very very nice to find a LDing mate.

So, in short, this shirt idea is a good one, but you may miss many many naturals if you just use cryptic expressions. We must really be bold and write « Lucid dreaming » and then of course explain it to people :fame:

My T-shirt ideas:

Lucid Dreamers play at Dreamviews.com

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If you LD, RC NOW!

Who knows, maybe I would find a real LDer this way. I actually found one, after I asked him why he has the Inception screen saver. But he is reluctant to talk about it.
Yeah, I'm gonna make me those T-shirts. In the mean time, I'm gonna RC more openly. Freeedooooom.

I really like the idea of these T-shirts. They sound pretty awesome! I would definitely wear one if it meant I could find another lucid dreamer to relate to. Something I'd really like to do is to start a local 'lucid dreamer club' in my city so that we can meet and help each other, get motivated, and talk about cool dream goals. That would be so epic...

Once I met a cute young lady with an OM symbol tattooed on the palm of her left hand. (I have a RC tattoo with a original symbol tattooed on the back of my right hand.)
I said to her, "Wait, you have an Om symbol tattooed on your palm? Cool. You know, you can look at your hands and see if you are dreaming."
She said, "That's why I got this tattoo. For reality checks."
"Wow! You're a hardcore lucid dreamer, huh?"
She laughed and said, "and what's that tattoo on your hand for?"
"Reality checks, of course."
Then, we asked each other if we were dreaming.
We had a cool conversation about lucid dreaming, exchanged phone numbers, and I never saw her again. HAHA

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Originally Posted by VagalTone

Nice ideas Laurelindo and LouaiB ! Interesting twist on this already interesting thread.

The only thing, and i know this for sure, is that there are many lucid dreamers who don´t call it lucid dreaming, or lucidity. So, they have no way to figure out what that means in the shirt. Once i began talking with a friend only to find out he had had lucid nightmares since his childhood, and he still has, but he didn´t know anything about the terminology and techniques of LDing. He told me that he found strange that people don´t remember their dreams. I just recommended him to visit DV ! It´s very very nice to find a LDing mate.

So, in short, this shirt idea is a good one, but you may miss many many naturals if you just use cryptic expressions. We must really be bold and write « Lucid dreaming » and then of course explain it to people :fame:

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There are a lot of naturals I know. I have 2 of my friends that are natural LDers, but it's not interesting to talk with them about LDing, unless they actually practice it intentionally . They are like: "Yeah it's awesom when you know you're dreaming. I really don't care about doing techniques, though" then I tell them :"techniques will increase your LDs, and make them longer and more real!", then they reply:"Meh, don't really care" :mad: It's not like they're even LDers!! That sucks. Only LDers who are really into LDing are interesting companions. I wish I had one. I only have my brother, and he's lame lol

If this counts, I used to have a best friend who was a lucid dreamer.. we would catch each other reality checking throughout the day. we both liked the finger-through-hand method :)

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Originally Posted by LouaiB

There are a lot of naturals I know. I have 2 of my friends that are natural LDers, but it's not interesting to talk with them about LDing, unless they actually practice it intentionally . They are like: "Yeah it's awesom when you know you're dreaming. I really don't care about doing techniques, though" then I tell them :"techniques will increase your LDs, and make them longer and more real!", then they reply:"Meh, don't really care" :mad: It's not like they're even LDers!! That sucks. Only LDers who are really into LDing are interesting companions. I wish I had one. I only have my brother, and he's lame lol

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I have to disagree with that bolded sentence.

I haven't seen anyone RC but I have met someone at my school who lucid dreams.

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Originally Posted by VagalTone

I have to disagree with that bolded sentence.

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well I guess that this applies only to my 2 friends, not to the general naturals. I'm gonna keep my eyes wide open to detect any LDers in my area.

I must say it sounds really strange how apparently around 17% of the world population experiences lucid dreams "at least once per month" - this has been verified by Robert Waggoner in several of his interviews.
What are those figures based on?
17% sounds incredibly high when you think of how rare it seems for people to even know about the possibility to have lucid dreams;
I believe those numbers are very skewed, since they are probably also based on the population in the East, where exploring mental states is valued much higher than in the West.

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Originally Posted by Laurelindo

I must say it sounds really strange how apparently around 17% of the world population experiences lucid dreams "at least once per month" - this has been verified by Robert Waggoner in several of his interviews.
What are those figures based on?
17% sounds incredibly high when you think of how rare it seems for people to even know about the possibility to have lucid dreams;
I believe those numbers are very skewed, since they are probably also based on the population in the East, where exploring mental states is valued much higher than in the West.

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Well, the 17% is supposed to be of world population, so yes, I would expect it to include Asia. Given that Asia has around 60% of world population I think and North America only has around 5%, I would expect most LDers to be in Asia. Add to that that in some cultures in Asia meditation and lucid dreaming are higher valued than in the United States for example, yes, I think the % may well be less than 17% in the USA without the overall 17% necessarily being wrong.

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Originally Posted by Laurelindo

I must say it sounds really strange how apparently around 17% of the world population experiences lucid dreams "at least once per month" - this has been verified by Robert Waggoner in several of his interviews.
What are those figures based on?
17% sounds incredibly high when you think of how rare it seems for people to even know about the possibility to have lucid dreams;
I believe those numbers are very skewed, since they are probably also based on the population in the East, where exploring mental states is valued much higher than in the West.

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Well - check out my earlier post on numbers in Germany..:P

Only my girlfriend, and that's only because she's been interested in lucid dreaming ever since I first told her about it.

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Originally Posted by Laurelindo

I must say it sounds really strange how apparently around 17% of the world population experiences lucid dreams "at least once per month" - this has been verified by Robert Waggoner in several of his interviews.
What are those figures based on?
17% sounds incredibly high when you think of how rare it seems for people to even know about the possibility to have lucid dreams;
I believe those numbers are very skewed, since they are probably also based on the population in the East, where exploring mental states is valued much higher than in the West.

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Well yes, in Lebanon, more than that percentage of people do at least have Lds a little ,but no one seems to care about what it is, and its potentials. BUT WHO CARES!!!
we can't force anyone to like LDing, Just telling them about LDing is the max we can effect. It's their lose. Good thing we knew it's real potentials. Man, you see how lucky we are:D?! Most peaople don't even knowwhat LDing is, let alone knowing its potentials.

No, sadly. I want to make my friends LDers, but everyone looks at me like I am crazy. I would like to start a club around it, but I don't know how many people I would even get. I guess this skill is more rare than I thought.