Thread: I suck.

I know a kid that LD's a few times a week, and he hates his mom, smokes every day, steals from convenience stores, and plays mean tricks on the kids he hates. This leads me to believe that ethics have NOTHING TO DO WITH lucid dreaming. I'm a bit of an asshole myself (tho not nearly as much) and I have no trouble LD'ing. I say pretty confidently that whatever restraints on dreaming Leo has observed, he's created for himself. It's almost like your knowledge restricts your imagination, man!

But let's focus on the question that was asked: If you're not stressed and you're not frustrated, the only other thing you can do is just forget about it, and it will come back sooner or later. Forget all the crap about higher minds and the subconcious and just accept that no one really knows why these things happen. All you can do is put it in the back of your mind and wait.

you're not stressed and you're not frustrated, the only other thing you can do is just forget about it, and it will come back sooner or later. Forget all the crap about higher minds and the subconcious and just accept that no one really knows why these things happen. All you can do is put it in the back of your mind and wait. [/b]

Amen to that.

yeah good point Dangeruss

If you stop looking for it then you will find it. For example I kinda quit LD all together, and wham the longest LD of my life (a Still standing record)

Originally posted by Dangeruss
I know a kid that LD's a few times a week, and he hates his mom, smokes every day, steals from convenience stores, and plays mean tricks on the kids he hates. This leads me to believe that ethics have NOTHING TO DO WITH lucid dreaming. I'm a bit of an asshole myself (tho not nearly as much) and I have no trouble LD'ing. I say pretty confidently that whatever restraints on dreaming Leo has observed, he's created for himself. It's almost like your knowledge restricts your imagination, man!

These are such counter-examples to Leo's theories that he will never be able to explain.

>> What I have found is that often Lucidity is bestowed before such a Dream so that it can be received well by both the Conscious Mind and the Primitive Dreamers Mind as well.

What's your n=?

Can we review the raw data for your findings?

I think the title of this subject says it all. If you have the attitude that you suck at LD, then you’re going to suck. You need to be positive. I've been trying to LD for the past 6 days with a positive, motivated attitude. I've come close to LDing 2 times already. Perseverance my friend, is the key!

Have you read this tutorial?

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11036

Originally posted by phayden
I think the title of this subject says it all. If you have the attitude that you suck at LD, then you’re going to suck. You need to be positive

I believe this to be absolutely correct. I would also recommend this link.

Everybody has a their own relative consciences, and not everybody is subject to the same laws. I agree that ethics is not the main reason for LD spell, and probably isn't a big reason to boot. If anything, that kind of internal conflict sould increase dreaming because of higher activity within the mind. The concept of higher dreaming mind is elaborately artistic and impressive, but to speak FOR it and say what it wants you to do is only partially credible to be taken on hearsay. People find things out for themselves. I know people who haven't done crap (or barely) and they don't even believer they dream often. I mean, that's way behind the stage of realizing you have 5-7 REM stages every night.

Stephen Laberge did not advocate moral keeping nor moral breaking for dreams, yet encourages the lack of boundaries in general to be exploited within our dreams.

I also know a person who does absolutely anything he wants in a dreams, especially immoral. He's had every single sexual fantasy imaginable, perhaps killing, but the point is, he doesn't always have an interest in that. He explores the "dreaming mind" to far limits, as far as he tells me. And every night his LD'ing never fails. He even posted here a few times, Lucid_no0b.

Anyway, if anything, our dreaming minds don't have to necessarily be superior to us, as if we were subject to some God figure mind. We create our realities.