Painfull WILD.... learned a lesson, and PISSED OFF!!!!

CT · 02-09-2004 01:57 PM

Ok... I'm so pissed off. I did a succesfull WILD like last time...
It was a bit un intentional, my dad woke me up to look after to dog for a few min at 8, so I went upstairs and I totally forgot about trying to recall my dreams etc so ofcourse after 30 mins I could not recall anything. That was a bit of a dissapointement for me, so I went back to bed to see if I could get some more results. I did a WILD, and it totally worked, though different then I thought it would be.

I was lying on my back, slowly drifting off to sleep, and I visualised myself lying on a big mountain, sun on my face, feeling my hands brush trough the long grass, and leaning back on a tree, while looking at the magnificent view on a valley and big snow covered mountains. I imagnined myself sniffing up the fresh air, and looking at the view. Evertime I had another thought, I'd put it on a cloud and I let it float into the sky where it dissapeared in the other clouds. Suddenly, WHAM I was under pressure again, and millisecconds later I was in the vortex/wormhole I described earlier. Funny thing is, I could still hear the sounds outside. I was lying on my back, and I felt pressure on my stomach and it sort of hurt. I didnt feel pain but I could still feel it very much and it was annoying. I tried ignoring it and concentrate on getting in a dream, but it did not work. It was very intense it also felt as if I could not breathe, and I opened my eyes with alot of effort and moved my hand to make it stop. I was relieved that it ended... but also PISSED OFF! I wasted a perfect WILD but it was just too damn hard.

**A Lost Soul** · 02-09-2004 02:31 PM

Hey, don't be pissed! You made progress, right? And you learned something? So it isn't all bad.

**Lowercase Society** · 02-09-2004 04:07 PM

I've heard this pressure described before on the chest/stomach...and the pain that accomponied thereafter.
Ouch.

**frozen_joth** · 02-09-2004 04:28 PM

anybody ever had a hard time breathing while trying a WILD? I tried last nite and I had a hard time breathing after a while. The xpeirence was wild though...... I hope you get more luck CT.

**nerve** · 02-09-2004 05:04 PM

*shrugs* you were just in sleep paralysis. just keep it up, you're doing fine. it's not good to get so pissed over these things. keep a good attitude.

**|)347|-|** · 02-09-2004 05:07 PM

Ive had that chest thing happen to me before, It sucks, you sorta have to learn how to ignore it

**Kaniaz** · 02-09-2004 05:47 PM

I have a hard time breathing. Simply because I'm concentrating too hard.

CT · 02-09-2004 05:51 PM

Yeah, I did learn. Dont sleep on your back. ^^

I'm still postive I was just pretty pissed because I could not ignore/handle it. Thing is I'd be ashamed if it where like "oooh pain ouchie I cant handle this lets wake up"... I really really tried. But I coulndt.

**Lowercase Society** · 02-09-2004 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
keep a good attitude.

CT · 02-09-2004 11:34 PM

Yeah yeah, I am!!! Really! Its very hard for me not to be.

But it was just so damn frustrating! I tried sooo hard.

**Demosthenes** · 02-10-2004 01:00 AM

Originally posted by CT
Yeah, I did learn. Dont sleep on your back. ^^

Is that why my WILDs never work?

CT · 03-15-2004 01:34 AM

dunno really, i've decided to try WILDS on my back again because my last incidental one wasnt annoying.

**Alaurast78** · 03-15-2004 01:53 AM

Practice makes perfect! Let us know how it turns out the next time!

**Serinanth** · 03-15-2004 05:18 AM

I had a hard time with the breathing thing too, it feels like you are going to suffocate, your consious, but yourmind is letting go of your body and you feel the lack of controll on your breathing as it turns to automatic breathing that the sub brain takes care of, its freaky to say the least, the best thing to do is to try and distact yoruself with something else and try not to focus on your breathing... Afer a while you will notice it but it wont bug you =)

**Alric** · 03-15-2004 10:54 AM

I heard if you feel the pressure you can try to get out of your body and have a oobe.

Ev · 03-15-2004 12:50 PM

Hmm, I have a problem with WILDs - when I'm "almost there" and feel that I'll enter a dream in few min, I take control of my breathing. And I cant let go...

I mean I cant give it back to subconscious...
And it ruins whole effect...

**Seeker** · 03-15-2004 01:27 PM

OK!! Thanks Seri, I guess that explains the pressure. I've felt it to, but only when I am on my back.
If I am on my side or stomach, I do not feel the pressure. Also, the vortex symptoms are more severe when I am on my back.

The only WILD I've been able to pull off was when I was on my stomach.

**Truthbearer** · 03-28-2004 10:51 PM

I always have trouble knowing when to stop concentrating on my breating...

It always ends up waking me up when I get to the sleep paralisis state....

It pisses me off too

Ev · 03-29-2004 12:24 AM

Tonight I entered a WILD, but in my WILD, my sister woke me up! At first I resisted and knew it's just a dream, but she was so damn annoying!

She kept telling me she's real and it's 2 pm, and I have to get up and go to my job, and I sleep too much...

And while she's telling me this, I experience true WILD, with colors swirling behing my eyelids, sounds, chills and force flowing through my body...

I dont remember what happened in the end, but I guess I lost my lucidity...

DAMN! I'm so pissed! perfect wild ruined by annoying dream character!

**Truthbearer** · 03-29-2004 02:51 PM

That must have been so annoying...

As if a WILD wasn't hard enough, knowing that you have high level lucidity and can do whatever you want, all frustated by a dream character...

If I was you I would have kicked her into a wall or something...

Or you could always try spinning or flying away I guess....

CT · 03-30-2004 01:36 AM

Aw, that must suck...

Last time I succeeded in a WILD was equally frustrating because I ended up having a twisted non-lucid false awakening, where I took a piece of metal out of my stomache to get rid of the pressure, then went back to try a wild, and had another false awakening in my dream, tried another wild in my dream, and again, and again. Its confusing as hell.

**Xisdence** · 03-30-2004 02:14 PM

i dont know if u guys notice but do u find that when trying to obe or something in a position other than fklat on ur bak u fall asleep...i have every time and like yas say....breathing difficulties are amplified on ur bak as ur supporting ur torso while breathing!!

**Demerzel** · 04-04-2004 01:17 PM

aw! no luck!

**Human** · 06-28-2004 03:19 PM

Originally posted by CT
I was lying on my back, and I felt pressure on my stomach and it sort of hurt. I didnt feel pain but I could still feel it very much and it was annoying. I tried ignoring it and concentrate on getting in a dream, but it did not work. It was very intense it also felt as if I could not breathe, and I opened my eyes with alot of effort and moved my hand to make it stop. I was relieved that it ended... but also PISSED OFF! I wasted a perfect WILD but it was just too damn hard.

-Is this something who happens often, during a WILD?

-Do anyone know why this happens?