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[RooJ]

Although i seem to have alot of control over my lucid dreams and there environment some things can still cause me problems, changing scenery by will for instance (ive only managed this a few times). Its not just about how much control we can have in dreams and how much we can bend the rules were used to from normal life, but also how rich the experiences can be. Now like alot of you I tend to plan ahead of my lucid dreams so that when i get them im not wasting them (if thats possible). I maybe set little experiments to try out while lucid, small tasks to perform etc. The only problem is I dont have LD's every day and when I do get chance I dont always get round to trying out things. I was wondering if anyone with experiences with the following tasks could report their findings? If you could take a few seconds out of your busy lucid dream adventures to try one or two things id be greatful. Heres a few , some ive done but would still like to hear other peoples findings: 1.) Walking through objects and methods used - I've done this a few times and on each occasion I struggled like crazy, its strange when you feel the object, feels so real against your hand, and then you try to move through it, takes alot of will power. 2.) Changing scenery - something like a tropical island or a scene from lord of the rings such as the final big battle in number 3. Could your mind recreate that, and can you change scenery[?] (ive found the best way to be spinning) 3.) Sticking to walls and ceilings - never tried it but always wondered how good i would be at it. 4.) Shape shifting - perhaps into an animal. 5.) Telekinesis in dreams 6.) Size changing - Growing taller to a giant size and shrinking to insect size (I've never achieved this one) Detail tests: 7.)Water - Water in my lucid dreams always feel cold and real, never really explored underwater though. 8.)Fire - When near fire in a dream do you feel its warmth? what happens if you step into it?. 9.)Exploring sense of Taste and Smell - Ever eat a big juicy steak in a lucid dream ? How did it taste? A must try for my next LD. 10.)Accessing memory - While lucid remember and think about what you were doing yesterday, How easy is it to access memory while dreaming and how accurate is it? 11.)Suicide - maybe a little wacky to you but i always wondered what would happen if i looked down the barrel of a gun and pulled the trigger in a lucid dream, or jumped off a building head first (never had the nerve to do it though). 12.) Climbing - Only added this because I always feel muscle strain while climbing in a lucid dream, was wondering if anyone else did? 13.)Stopping hands melting - Everyone seems to say your hands melt if you look at them but ive found if you remain open minded it does nothing. This got me thinking whether it happens because we expect it, if so then we could use it to our advantage in normal dreams to become lucid (expectations = reality). For those that might not remember results ive found commenting in lucid dreams helps me greatly when remembering because i nearly always remember what ive said, e.g. "my arms are aching even though this is only a dream". Thanks for taking the time to read and your welcome to add experiments to try. I know there's another thread dealing with possible experiments, but this is here for findings . >RooJ

[Callista]

Originally posted by RooJ 1.) Walking through objects and methods used - I've done this a few times and on each occasion I struggled like crazy, its strange when you feel the object, feels so real against your hand, and then you try to move through it, takes alot of will power. It does indeed, and I've only managed it once, maybe twice.Methods I've tried: --Imagining the barrier is not there --Parting the barrier as though it were a pair of curtains --Pretending it's semi-solid and pushing through it as though it were jell-o --Teleporting to the other side (but that's cheating!) 2.) Changing scenery - something like a tropical island or a scene from lord of the rings such as the final big battle in number 3. Could your mind recreate that, and can you change scenery[?] (ive found the best way to be spinning)[/b] The only times this has worked for me, I simply closed my eyes and convinced myself that the new surroundings were around me. 5.) Telekinesis in dreams[/b] Ah, my specialty! Seriously--moving objects is so easy for me while I'm dreaming that I use it as a sign to test whether or not I'm dreaming. Generally, I just will the object to move, and it does. When I use telekinesis, there's a funny sort of feeling in my head that I can't seem to duplicate while I'm awake. I can move things out of my field of vision into my field of vision, as well as moving multiple things at once. The biggest thing I can pick up routinely would be about the size of a person; but once, with the help of a DC (my sister) giving me energy to do so, I toppled an entire building. 7.)Water - Water in my lucid dreams always feel cold and real, never really explored underwater though.[/b] I've found I can breathe underwater while I'm in a dream, and that I can feel the viscosity of the water. Beyond that, though, it's not as realistic as really swimming. 9.)Exploring sense of Taste and Smell - Ever eat a big juicy steak in a lucid dream * ? How did it taste? A must try for my next LD.[/b] The last time I ate something in a dream, it was a cookie. The texture was right, but the taste wasn't as strong as it should have been--I must work on this one. Dream food, after all, has no calories! 10.)Accessing memory - While lucid remember and think about what you were doing yesterday, How easy is it to access memory while dreaming and how accurate is it?[/b] More difficult. Facts are much easier to access than memories of events; for example, I could easily remember that vinegar reacts with baking soda, or that Pluto has a moon named Charon, while completely forgetting that I no longer live with my parents or that my roommate's grandfather died last year. 11.)Suicide - maybe a little wacky to you but i always wondered what would happen if i looked down the barrel of a gun and pulled the trigger in a lucid dream, or jumped off a building head first (never had the nerve to do it though).[/b] Wacky, yes, but we all wonder about death, and I'm not surprised people have tried it in dreams. Though I've never outright committed suicide, I have died in dreams. It usually ends the dream. Twice, I came back as a ghost; once, I was resurrected. The actual sensation of dream-death is a combination of whatever causes the death (the smell of poison gas, or the feeling of a knife wound, or the flash of a gun) and a strange sort of motion in a direction I can't quite describe. Maybe \"inward\"? 13.)Stopping hands melting - Everyone seems to say your hands melt if you look at them but ive found if you remain open minded it does nothing. This got me thinking whether it happens because we expect it, if so then we could use it to our advantage in normal dreams to become lucid (expectations = reality).[/b] That's odd--my hands never melt in a dream. Why should they?

[RooJ]

Callista, Thanks for the lengthy reply . The only times this has worked for me, I simply closed my eyes and convinced myself that the new surroundings were around me. [/b] Changing dream scenery is one of my main interests at the moment, Id love to be able to change the scenery consistently any time i wanted. Ive only ever had your technique work once, i was wishing for a tropical beach and opened my eyes to see quite a dull british seaside resort (to make matters worse the weather was awful ). The problem with the technique for me is that when i close my eyes in a lucid dream theres a strong possibility ill wake up or lose focus in the dream. and a strange sort of motion in a direction I can't quite describe. Maybe \"inward\"? [/b] Yeah ive felt that too, not by suicide though. Once during a lucid dream i was shot in the back of the neck and head. No matter how i tried i couldnt fight the feeling, I slowly lost consciousness and woke. That's odd--my hands never melt in a dream. Why should they?[/b] Exactly my thoughts. Thanks again, i found your answers very interesting, alot of them have much in common with my experiences. >RooJ

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by RooJ Heres a few , some ive done but would still like to hear other peoples findings: 1.) Walking through objects and methods used - I've done this a few times and on each occasion I struggled like crazy, its strange when you feel the object, feels so real against your hand, and then you try to move through it, takes alot of will power. 2.) Changing scenery - something like a tropical island or a scene from lord of the rings such as the final big battle in number 3. Could your mind recreate that, and can you change scenery[?] (ive found the best way to be spinning) 3.) Sticking to walls and ceilings - never tried it but always wondered how good i would be at it. 4.) Shape shifting - perhaps into an animal. 5.) Telekinesis in dreams 6.) Size changing - Growing taller to a giant size and shrinking to insect size (I've never achieved this one) Detail tests: 7.)Water - Water in my lucid dreams always feel cold and real, never really explored underwater though. 8.)Fire - When near fire in a dream do you feel its warmth? what happens if you step into it?. 9.)Exploring sense of Taste and Smell - Ever eat a big juicy steak in a lucid dream ? How did it taste? A must try for my next LD. 10.)Accessing memory - While lucid remember and think about what you were doing yesterday, How easy is it to access memory while dreaming and how accurate is it? 11.)Suicide - maybe a little wacky to you but i always wondered what would happen if i looked down the barrel of a gun and pulled the trigger in a lucid dream, or jumped off a building head first (never had the nerve to do it though). 12.) Climbing - Only added this because I always feel muscle strain while climbing in a lucid dream, was wondering if anyone else did? 13.)Stopping hands melting - Everyone seems to say your hands melt if you look at them but ive found if you remain open minded it does nothing. This got me thinking whether it happens because we expect it, if so then we could use it to our advantage in normal dreams to become lucid (expectations = reality). Yeah, I have done all that, & more! I will now list the ones I have actually worked on: 1) Playing a Video Game- b/c some VGs I beat so fast in real time that I like to enhance the difficulty in my LDs, perhaps a bit too much 2) Doing the LD monthly task-I think that is a major task....very fun! 3) Sharing a Dream-A really big challenge, but I think it is fun to hang out w/other LDers & see what they can do. 4) Role-playing in a movie/anime/VG- That is fun...need I say more 5) Flying- That owns all! Just soaring over landscapes, etc, is very calming! 6) Ghost-like-Even better, you can even read a book like this, & maybe view current events! Okay, that is all I can think of right now...so I will have to say more later!