Fear to LD =(

[marias]

Hi! I had my first LD about two years ago. I looked for it and after many reality checks during a couple of weeks, I could get one. The experience reminded me of the only time I experienced with acid, which was quite horrifying. I can resume it in “fear to craziness and not to being able” to cope with everyday reality… My first LD consisted in becoming aware of the fact that I was dreaming, while I was walking in a beach. After taking a look at my hands, I became fully conscious about everything. I looked to the sea, and saw an enormous old city in a big island in front of me. Everything in this city was of a pale yellow color, and although I was at a certain distance, I could see the details of every construction in it. There was no one living in this city, and it seemed to have been abandoned hundreds of years ago. Although the view was beautiful I suddenly felt a state of fear of not being able to wake up again. I try to shout, to ask for help, and when I sometimes wake up I realize I’m still dreaming (sort of Waking Life) but with fear. Of course I do finally wake up, but since then, I’ve been trying to avoid LD, but I don't seem to be able to handle having or not having LD anymore. I try not to check reality, but I find myself many times testing reality in a dream itself, totally unconscious.. And another lucid dream from which I only want to get out from. While LD, I try to relax, to think that I’m just sleeping. I’ve also tried flying, which is something incredible, but in some point I still have fear. I guess that this could be compared with “try not to think about a pink elephant in your room”…. Haha…. I’ve also heard that to cope with these experiences (LD, acids or OBE) someone needs to have certain peace with himself, or at least with his spirituality. I believe I’ve tried to have LD for the first time while I was having a great existential crisis, and it was very difficult to be in peace with myself with reality, and while not understanding the world, the cosmos, or whatever is that someone needs to understand for not having a crisis. Did anyone have a similar problem regarding being very afraid while LD? Does anyone know a way on how to not have LD´s? I know this forum encourages LD, and I know that for many people this can be the greatest experience of all.. well, not for me, at least until now… =) Thanks. Sorry for my English. M. Argentina.

[Secret Neo]

I couldnt understand being afraid of LDing, but in your case I suggest a method of waking up, like closing your eyes and think about waking up. But also, you gotta remember that its just a dream, nothing will hurt you, you can do anything, meet anyone and some other sweet stuff.

[Rainman]

First off, hablas espanol? Second of all I had the exact problem, only with astral projection. I won't go into that, cause maybe it's the wrong forum, but the same happened to me. I smoked marijuana regularly, and once had some laced with PCP. The experience I had with that was so horrifying, painful, and traumatizing, that it broke every drug habbit I ever had, and have never touched any drug since. But it also made me afraid to LD, and moreso it made me afraid to OBE, because my few experiences with both were very similar. Eventually you have to make yourself come to the realization that in LD YOU are in complete control! Nothing and no one can harm you. In fact it is an excellent way to help you cope with fears you do have now. But in your case, if you have determined that you realy do not want to have lucid dreams anymore, you could do all of the opposite methods that you would use to GET lucid dreams. To me, I think it would be difficult to stop having them. I would really consider just trying to face your fear. It is more productive for you, and it will end beautifully if you do. But it's your call obviously. I hope this post was able to help you =/

[marias]

Hi Rainman! Well, si, I hablo espaniol =) I guess you tambien. You’ve gone thought the same as me. The story I’ve told in my other post, occurred in a period of my life when I used to smoke marijuana three or four times every day, during almost three years… I had to quit smoking because the level of craziness that I felt in my head was soooo intense and big, that I thought I could never ever come back to reality… Even just one puff and the effect of the drug was every time more intense and horrifying. I quit smoking two years ago… I never touched marijuana again, and I wouldn’t dare to smoke in my whole life after all the fear I’ve went though. I believe that for being able to relax in LD or OBEs, it´s very important and especially essential, to be able to relax in actual world and personal reality, which is something I find difficult. Haha.. not only I fear LD, but the reality I see surrounding my body all the time =) Quite difficult! Guess that I have to keep on working in trying to find a spiritual path first, and then worry about other stuff. I guess my real fear (the one I should face) is reality itself, and not reality in dreams. Thanks for your reply Rainman!

[Po Nation]

I began to question reality after doing mushrooms. It was the single most traumatizing/liberating moment of my life. I had since began to dabble in Buddhism, which I feel is a great spiritual path/paradigm to build your life around. I think you will feel more comfortable with LD'ing once you accept some form of reality as truth. I know it's hard to do when you see the other side so to speak. I also have heard that the book No Boundaries is very good, you may want to take a look at it.

[Po Nation]

Also, I too felt trippy effects (flashbacks) when I smoked marijuana after doing mushrooms. I quit for about 3 months and recently tried it again, and for the most part I am okay. I would say I still trip about 10% of the time from marjuana (slight visual hallucinations etc) but I have learned to be at peace with it and enjoy the experience. However, I am sometimes afraid of the long-term effects it could have on my mental well being so I do not smoke very much or very often.

[SEBSTER]

look homes i used to be afraid of the same, being stuck in a dream...but now i think about it and i think "hey you know what? if i cant wake up...good! i wont have anymore problems in a world created by me..jaja" but seriously...think about it, if you died in ur dream then it wouldnt be a dream anymore now would it..before u know it youll getr dragged off to either heaven or the basement lol so just relax homie and dream away