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      Other Languages in dreams

      I was writing an entry into my dream journal here on dreamviews and I just realized that I had one question for you.

      When I dream and "my real me" is the main character I sometimes speak other languages than my native language.

      I find myself speaking japanese, czech, french, english and even dutch and russian. But sometimes it happens that I get stuck on some word that I want to use but I can't remember how it is said and that's my problem...because I always wake up and I have to go and look for that word or I won't be able to continue in my dream and my sleep.

      What about you? Do you have such problems? Is it normal that I dream in other languages than the native one?

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      I find myself sometimes speaking a foreign language, but I don't know what the words are I am saying. I seem to be able to verbalize them fairly quickly, but can't comprehend what it is I am saying.


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      I'm majoring in Foreign Language so I've had a few dreams where I'm speaking in Russian. However, you have to be careful because what you may be saying in the dream may not be correct in real life. In the first one I had, I was asking a girl with a question and I used a phrase that I'm fairly familiar with. When I woke up, though, I realized that I had said the wrong thing. What I thought meant "What happened?" actually means "What is it called?"

      The second one I had, I know that I said the right things in Russian, however, I was talking with a lady and she started speaking Russian but I had no idea what she was saying. It was frustrating, mainly because that's one of the main fears I have towards talking with someone in another language. I have yet to have a dream in Spanish, though.

      Are you familiar with all of those langauges? If not, I wouldn't consider them very accurate. It's not uncommon for the mind to be convinced during the dream that what it's saying is accurate, but try to remember what you said and look it up.

      It's also possible to become lucid from this, I found once! I was speaking Russian but once I came to a word I didn't know I just made something up. Then I realized that I don't just make up words in real life and asked if I was dreaming. I don't know if that would help you become lucid, but it's just a thought.

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      Dutch, japanese, czech, english and french are part of my everyday life. russian..ehm I've been learning this language at school..and I wasn't good at it.

      I don't usually speak nonsense and if I do it's somewhat only in my brain. the person in the dream continues to speak but I have the words he's saying in my head (not really hearing anything).

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      Originally posted by STsung
      Dutch, japanese, czech, english and french are part of my everyday life.
      Wow! That's great! :bravo:

      When I was taking Spanish in high school and college, I used to have dreams in Spanish. Mostly stupid stuff like, "?Donde esta la biblioteca?"

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      I used to be fluent in German (it's been a couple of years since I've spoken it, though, so my vocab has decreased quite a bit), and I've studied a little Russian in HS and university. I've had dreams in both of those languages. In one memorable one, I started out speaking Russian, quickly exhausted my knowledge of that language, switched over to German, continued with that until my vocab failed me, and finally ended up in English (my native language). I've never had a dream that I can recall in which I spoke a language with which I'm not at least familiar in waking life.

      And STsung, I second Burns' comment, it's awesome that you know so many languages!
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      My parents are Polish, so I was able to speak that fluently when I was young. Over the years though I kind of lost that ability. I can still understand it well, but I have trouble speaking it. I can communicate but I stumble on alot of words.

      But I had a dream a few nights ago where I was speaking it fluently, and I knew exactly what I was saying.

      But it's pretty obvious, it's still all hidden deep somewhere inside my brain.

      As for other languages, its never happened to m, even though I took 4 years of Spanish in highschool.

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      I just scored 50th in the country on the national french exam! and I didn't do one homework assignment all year

      My main dream character almost always speaks english, but other dream characters sometimes speak french. Like Amethyst star said, however, if you hear spoken language and understand it in the dream, and you remember it accurately when you wake up, you often find that the words that were actually spoken turn out to be gobbledegook or mistranslated. This happens in english as well as french, I remember once I had this dream argument in english which made perfect sense at the time, but after waking I contrasted the ideas exchanged in the argument and the actual words spoken, and the similarities were very few. You and your dream characters come from the same mind, and so you both already know what the other is going to say on some level other than conscious. As if to fool the dreaming brain into thinking the experience normal, ideas are transferred directly from the dream character to the dreamer but are usually accompanied by the flapping of the jaw that we need to communicate outside of our own minds.

      So, my latest experiemnt with Lucid Dreaming has been to actually eliminate all forms of language from my dream. I'm trying to figure out whether thought can happen without language. I know that it can, I'm just trying to find out what are the advantages and disadvantages are of wordless thought, as well as within which boundaries is happens. Also, it's a great time saver because I can look a DC in the eye, and we instantly reach the end of our conversation, each party reaching complete understand of the other without speaking a single word. I guess you could call it shining, except I'm trying to remove all language and words from my vocabulary so that I'm forced to think in a more abstract, unbounded, transcendental way. So far it's been great fun, but removing language from thought process is proving harder than I thought, and the wordless thoughts I do end up having tend to defy explanation so they're not very useful, yet.
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      I'm fluent in french and english, so both of them can appear in my dreams, mainly english though. The other day though, in an LD, I switched my thoughts from being in english to french (if that makes any sense) to help me focus on what was happening and kinda prove to myself that I was fully conscious of my actions, and it worked pretty well.
      I think I've had a few parts in dreams where I talked in Spanish, since I've been learning that for a while, but usually I was kinda unsure of myself.

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      Translation

      Perfect. Can you help with a translation of the japanese on this page. You will need to copy/paste this into a browser, because they don't like hot linking.

      http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff7/...d13/redart.jpg

      Thanks.

      Originally posted by STsung
      Dutch, japanese, czech, english and french are part of my everyday life. russian..ehm I've been learning this language at school..and I wasn't good at it. *

      I don't usually speak nonsense and if I do it's somewhat only in my brain. the person in the dream continues to speak but I have the words he's saying in my head (not really hearing anything).


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      Thank you for your comments. Maybe I will experiment a bit with languages in my LDs.


      Rainbow Werewolf:
      oops. Ok I copied the link and it is ok.
      The translation would give something like this....

      Like his his name says he is a beast with a firy red fur. But under his *
      dreadfull (fierce?) exterior appearance we find an brain more intelligent *
      than the one of human beings. *
      his sharp *claws and fangs make him strong at close-range combat but other *
      than this not much is known about him. we don't know certainly if Red XIII *
      is his real name. animal enigma?[/b]

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      You're awesome.

      Does the text at the bottom left say anything?

      Originally posted by STsung

      Like his his name says he is a beast with a firy red fur. But under his *
      dreadfull (fierce?) exterior appearance we find an brain more intelligent *
      than the one of human beings. *
      his sharp *claws and fangs make him strong at close-range combat but other *
      than this not much is known about him. we don't know certainly if Red XIII *
      is his real name. animal enigma?


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      OT: well that means that's "still" Tetsuya Nomura who draw that...


      All: if anyone will dream about himself speaking language he never spoke let me know.

      Also...if someone was fluent in a language and he forgot it...could he remember it in his dreams? ^_~ This would be nice.

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