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      Sceletium induced oneirovividity?

      I've been looking into plants & drugs that effect dreams. Many sources say consumption of stimulants such as caffeine and amphetamines (inc. MDMA, etc) prior to sleep often increases the vividness of dreams. (Please try to avoid amphetamine use)
      Has anyone used Sceletium tortuosum or Delosperma bosseranum prior to sleep and noted if it effected dream vividness, recall, intensity, or lucidity?

      (For those who dont already know Sceletium tortuosum is a succulant south african plant that is crushed, fermented, dried, and powdered for use as an euphoriant stimulant. Delosperma bosseranum is a succulant from madagascar with many of the same active constituents but no record of traditional useage by the native inhabitants of madagascar.)

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      No but i did research on ecstasy and it involves MDMA which fucks with the reactors in your brain that creat seratonin and other chemicals, and destory it thus not creating as much and seratonin is used in your brain for several functiions as well as others so i dont think that it would help with LD's in any which way. but those other drugs im not to sure, would you be able to list any products in which they are used?

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      Originally posted by Lutch+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lutch)</div>
      No but i did research on ecstasy and it involves MDMA[/b]
      Ecstacy Is MDMA... 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine, but yeah your right the after-effects of many stimulants is a neurotransmitter deficit causing drowsyness, tiredness, and wouldnt help with dreams- thats why I think this might be effective if taken right before bed, or maby durring an interrupted sleep, so its effects would still be going durring the REM cycles.
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      those other drugs im not to sure, would you be able to list any products in which they are used?
      Delosperma bosseranum is still quite obscure- used mainly by those who grow it (I have an abundance of them but they are still too young). Sceletium tortuosum is often called kanna and is sold online or in 'legal highs' type shops. Neither can be found in walmart, lol, but I figure in an oneironaut community there must be some psychonauts who have tried less common substances such as Sceletium tortuosum.

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