Thread: A Question about WILD, SP & loss of consciousness?

I'm practicing for WILD each night, and am managing to maintain awareness for longer and longer periods of time, getting lots of weird sensations, auditory, visual and physical. I think I am pretty close to being able to induce SP.
But I always lose consciousness eventually, and just fall asleep. I think the whole process is taking about 20 minutes until I fall under.

My question is about the exact moment when you go from SP to LD.
Is there a period of time, even just for a split second, maybe longer, where you lose consciousness and "black out", then come to awareness again "on the other side", fully lucid and in a dream? Or is the transition completely smooth and conscious?
I'm interested in knowing if I am supposed to black out and fall asleep just for a second or not.

Thanks!

I've only done one wild successfully and I didn't have sleep parlaysis, essentially I just fell asleep quickly without losing conciousness. When I did this I blacked out of conciousness for a few seconds and then faded into a dream with quite a (woah) feeling

In MY two WILDs, I didn't black out, at least not from memory. Completely smooth transition. Got all the tinglies, and my dream body just rose up offa the bed, stood up, and there I was! There's more to it than that... it was a completely weird, indescribable feeling, like... yeah...

Dunno if its the smae for everybody though...

I had only one WILD for now, there was no blackout (at least I don't remember it). I was still in my bed in the dream, but the lights were on and the window was open (strange things since I was still in bed) and I did a nose RC since it didn't look like a dream... but it was! I was feeling sleepy though, I moved very slowly and I had a great difficulty keeping my eyes open, fact that led me to wake up quite fast while trying to get out of bed...

I was very confused at first since it didn't look like a dream, absolutely not... I was feeling half-asleep, but that is quite normal in bed after waking up, and I had a very weak SP and no HI while I usually have lots of HI and the only other time I entered SP it was very strong and felt different (so I didn't even think I could enter a WILD in that moment).

I would've been sure I had waken up if it wasn't for the lights/window and I hadn't done a RC.

I think it took me about 30 minutes from the moment I closed my eyes to the one I entered the dream, but I was very lucky since SP came earlier than usual.

It could be a subjective feeling though, I really don't know. Maybe you'll feel a black-out of some sort, or even something different.

I have a follow up question that relates. I think I know the answer, but I couldn't find any material to support my claim. When you are initiating a WILD, are you essentially forcing your mind through the initial stages of sleep so that when you finally fall asleep you'll fall straight into the REM phase?

- -Barrett

Originally posted by bobvilax2000
I have a follow up question that relates. I think I know the answer, but I couldn't find any material to support my claim. When you are initiating a WILD, are you essentially forcing your mind through the initial stages of sleep so that when you finally fall asleep you'll fall straight into the REM phase?

Ehrm... nope, I don't think so.

In my WILD attempts, something I've learnt is that trying to "force" anything is unproductive... won't work.

Basically what you're doing is hanging on to your consciousness, and letting everything else happen naturally. WILDing is just like falling asleep normally, except, however you do it, you manage to keep your mind awake throughout falling asleep...