Dreaming about Dreaming

[Lowercase Society]

Dreaming about dreaming...this is an occurance that many of you have had, and is very aggrivating! You wake up, and turn on the light, grab the pen...still groggy from the sleep paralysis, and you remember you just dreamed about having a lucid dream, dreamed about any aspect of dreaming, including just thinking or talking about it in your dream. And throughout the whole house, in the dark hours, an echoeing, 'DAMMIT' is heard. Now...my proposal: If you are a member of this forum, dreaming is something you probably think about a great deal of your day...so this could be your subconcious just using this as a dream...or is it something else? Perhaps the subconcious trying to trick the concious...or the subconcious trying to STAY subconcious...and not let the conciousness take over, to become lucid? What do you think? Enjoy!

[UMJ]

This kind of thinking is exactly what brings difficulty to skills like lucid dreaming. When your dreaming about dreaming without going lucid that's just your mind projecting the fact that lucid dreaming is what you want. It's not your subconscious mind trying to hinder you, it's trying to help you. If you find yourself dreaming about dreaming just try to make it happen. This time make keywords that will trigger relizations so that you can enter lucidity. You should autosuggestion yourself before you go to bed so that when you just hear the word dream while your dreaming you should realize your dreaming. These are just my words on dreaming about dreaming without going lucid. These words donot apply to false awakening.

[Lowercase Society]

Originally posted by Lowercase Society Dreaming about dreaming...this is an occurance that many of you have had, and is very aggrivating! ...and only one person posts. Anyway, UMJ, i really see the coherence in your post. But...if i were to hypothosize something it would be that the SUBCONCIOUS is jealous that the concious is taking over...when it, most of the time, doesn't in the dream world. It's stepping over the line, per say.

[Howie]

It seems to me that every method I achieve it takes a little more the next time for Lucidity. My concious mind either wants to rule things or my subconcious does not want me to. I wonder sontimes wether each individuals brain has a certain time when it is ready to Lucid dream on a regular basis. And until that point you can struggle with your concius & sub concious until the cows come home. Dreaming about dreaming is pretty cool though. I have had two or three dreams about explaining to somone how to lucid dream. Yet I did not become Lucid..........

[Emi Chan]

I actaully think it takes a very strong will to auto initiate Lucid Dreaming, what I kinda like to call it. Shadow seems to be very good at doing that. For me and I really think for alot of other people also I think it's depends on other things out of our control. I think anyone can achieve Lucid dreaming at will every night if they try hard enough to focuse on doing it. But I think other things plays a very significant role in rather or not we have it on one night rather than another night. As a matter of fact I'll create a thread on it.

[Truthbearer]

Originally posted by Lowercase Society But...if i were to hypothosize something it would be that the SUBCONCIOUS is jealous that the concious is taking over...when it, most of the time, doesn't in the dream world. It's stepping over the line, per say. As far as I know the subconscious is not that much an entity by itself, but is rather what is not quite conscious but can become so with some further indagation. Thus, I don't see why this information would not allow you to really become lucid. What is subconscious will remain that way, even if you become lucid. If the unconscious wanted to prevent you from becoming lucid then a normal dream would do, I guess...It's not an easy topic, and a hard one to explain too... I would also just believe this is the way in which we fullfil our wish to become lucid, not unlike how we fullfil any other wish we have through our dreams....

[Alric]

I had a dream last night where I layed down and I tried a WILD and it worked within like 30 seconds and I was in a dream. At that point I thought it really worked and I went lucid. Was a pretty short dream though. After I woke up for real I remebered when I went to sleep to try the WILD I wasn't in my real bedroom. That is a good way to dream about a dreaming though, because I did become lucid.