Thread: Everyone Thinks They Can Ld

Don't let that kind of thing get to you. The fact is YOU know that YOU can LD and that's all that matters. Who cares if people say they LD EVERY night, this isn't a competition to be better than anyone else. All you need is the self satisfaction and knowledge that you have had lucid dreams rather than trying to be the ONLY person who has. The truth is, you'll NEVER know if someone has had an LD or not, there is no way to tell whether something is truth when it has no physical evidence or proof except the person who has been the witness of their own dream. Just try and be happy that you can lucid dream, as many of these people may never experience the wonders of one. I've tried to do the same by explaining to someone about LDs and getting the old "Ah yeah I have those all the time" reply, but I just kind of shrug it off and ignore it. We are all our own person, our dreams are the only things that can ever really belong to ONLY us, it's one of the very few mental possessions and is something noone can ever compete with, be glad they're so unique. I think I went off on one in this post but I'm sure you get the point, don't let it get to you.

Everyone is finding this hard to believe because other people have really different viewpoints than you do. A lot of people don't take much stock into dreams... they don't really think too much of them.

Some people are natural LDers, they simply know they are dreaming every night. Try to look at it from their point of view... nobody really discusses dreams in the mainstream, so they don't understand that it is not traditional to know that you are dreaming when you are. They probably think "wait... you think its real? that is crazy" In fact -- I think it's not even too uncommon. A lot of people I've told say they do that all the time. They just say "no... I just kind of walk around and let things happen and know I'm dreaming" I was on the bus one time when I was still taking the bus and this girl was like "oo I had this really fun dream last night... I was flying around and everything" They just think they are neat things. Also, if there realism isn't very good, it won't be that amazing.

Basically, all the things that factor in are their realism in the dream, if they are natural LDers, if they CARE about dreams at all (when I was younger I used to tell my brother about my interesting dreams...), and if they realize what you can do in them.

Originally Posted by game

The truth is, you'll NEVER know if someone has had an LD or not, there is no way to tell whether something is truth when it has no physical evidence or proof except the person who has been the witness of their own dream.
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Wrong. You can monitor eye movements during REM and you can prove if someone has had a lucid dream or not. This is how lucid dreams were scientifically proven.

I think its like any intrest, people either think yeah thats cool or people think right well im not really bothered by it.

Its like im obsessed with volcanoes and I can talk to people about it and they will listen and be not really that bothered by it where as im like WOW THATS GREAT!!! but then people can talk to me about things that really interest them and I will be fair enough but not really that bothered. I guess it all depends if some one is interested in it thats all.

Originally Posted by Frosty

"It's MY dream, now you're doomed[/b]

LOL

I have many friends that if I tell them that I can "conciously dream" they imediatly say "oh yeah, I have those all the time." I know I may be lucky and have so many friends that LD all the time, but I try to be realistic and decide thet maybe a few of them have had LD's before.

I was thinking a bit...
Today I have an exam, so I wanted to get up early so I can learn a bit more, so I set my alarm 2 hours earlier than I have to go. Of course it went into a wake up, hit clock down, fall back to a half dream state, only to wake up again 5 minutes after becouse of my clock's snooze mode
So while I was half-awake half-dreaming I was thinking that, yes I know that I dream, and yes this could also be called lucidity, but... this is LUCIDITY
So next time we meet someone, we should try to tell them difference....

P.S.: How can I write in smaller font, you know with tat very small one, now I don't have time to figure out, I have an exam at hand

k first of all your a horrible speller mr honers student
i think your being snotty about other people not being able to process something just because they don't understand it at first. You should post topics that are more meantful then topics about how annoyed you are at other peoples ignorance

I think you are LD

Originally Posted by ShYne123

Everyone i tell about LDing, or most people say "oh yeah i have them once and a while" And its obvous they are lieing its actaully very anoying, because they dont even understand what it is. Forinstance, was telling this kid about my first LD, (it was a FA and i wokeup right after realizing i was dreaming from getting excited) He proceded to tell me "yeah i do that all the time ill be dreaming and ill be sitting on my bed, and know im dreaming." And im thinking ("why the hell would you have LD;s all the time and just sit there in your bed? Its retarded hes obvousily lieing or just dosnt understand") So i reply "no a LD is when you realize your dreaming and then you can control it bla bla bla do w/e you want" And most people say that they can have them right after telling them what it is, and its entirily anoying. (i realize some people can without prax or knowlege but not 2/3 of the people i tell)
Also lots of people That have herd of lucid dreaming think having a LD is something like this.

"yeah i lucid dream all the time if i watch Porn before i sleep i have sex dreams", then i have to go on and on trying to explain thats not a lucid.

It really is anoying trying to explain odd concepts to many people. Alot of people just cant proccess it, but then again i go to a tech school and most people their arnt too incredibly smart, im in all honors classes and can like sleep through them and get high honors lol. (Although i realize i cant spell AT ALL)

Dose Anyone else have this problem? Or do i just know a abnormal ammount of liers? lol
"Yeah man i have lucid dreams all the time!" BULLS--t! Its especially anoying becuase i Barily ever have them lol, it takes work!
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Are you like 3 or something??????????

I've had this happen to me before as well. I have just quit telling people about it because they either seemed to be lying by saying they have done it or they just thought I was insane for even thinking this stuff even works. I've tried too many times to tell people how to do it and they just think I'm crazy and they have no interest in it. I just keep it to myself these days.Oh well, suks for them.

^^^ NECROPOSTER!!! AH!!!


Seriosly though, I find my friends understand the concept perfectly, just not any adults I try to explain it to. My mom thinks it's some crazy drug, cult, bad thing.

People are terrible liars, and that includes some people on this site.

I understand your frustration, but as someone above said, it looks like your seeing the worst. Most people probably don't even know what an LD is, so they take something they may have experienced and blow it up to relate to you. They may think they genuinly have had one. Its just best to give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't they're intentionally lying. Plus, who cares, its your mind, you are learning how to take advantage of its abilities, relax, and don't worry about the others.

Originally Posted by ShYne123

I dont see how im going to convice myself its so "easy" when iv been trying for months.
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This has bothered me before as well, but I think I've found a way around it. If you fail one day, change your methods the next. Try a new technique, or stop using one, or change how you're doing a technique. Then, just tell yourself that the only reason you weren't having lucid dreams before was that your methods weren't right for you, and that this time it will work. At the very least, this will lessen doubts, and will probably also eventually lead you to the method that's perfect for you.

I've read that only about one out of 300 people actually have lucid dreams.

That would explain a lot, wouldn't it?

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/luciddreamingtasks/