occasionally, when im really tired, and am going to bed normally (no WBTB) i will hear and see the same sort of hallucinations you get from the beginnings of WILD.

i hear some people can WILD without WBTB, so is this a sign i should try that? sometimes they are consistant and will see/hear things until i lose consciousness. I don't know however why i would be going straight into a dream, unless REM cycles change when you are tired.

any one else get this, or any clues why?

c ya