Trouble getting SP

**trigotron** · 06-29-2007 05:52 PM

Ok for all those of you who have succeeded at WILD:

I've tried WILD about 5 times, and on none of them have i gotten "sleep paralysis", i've been lying there for probably 30 minutes and sometimes i get the slight numbness (my first time was actually the best in terms of numbness where i got to the "seems like you're floating" sensation), however on no occasion have i gotten to the point where i can't move. One strange thing that i've noticed is when i've been laying there for a while i sometimes experience a sensation like my hands/wrists are turned to a different angle than they actually are (anyone else had this happen to them?)

Anyway, any advice on what i'm doing wrong with the WILD, do i just need to wait longer for SP or do i just not feel anything when i get SP?

Also, for those of you who have done WILD, do you ever feel your real body lying in bed while you're having an LD, or does SP take away feeling as well as ability to move?

**graphicsgriffin** · 06-30-2007 03:23 PM

The exactly same thing is happening with me.

Sorry I can't help you... but anyway, I have been trying to WILD like 10 times, never been able to get paralysis while awake ( got it only once after I slept then I woke up when it happened).

I used to wait for 1 or 2 hours but no use.
I also get this feeling several times in every attempt to WILD, that I'm somewhat like biggening to feel something strange in my body, and my pupils just want to stare up and up and my eyes want to be opened.

Like you said, I think we are forgetting something.

Anyone expert in WILDing can help us?

I feel if this barrier is breached, then it's a piece of cake.

Anyone?

**ThePhobiaViewed** · 06-30-2007 07:39 PM

I've always wondered about the wrists feeling like theyre at a different angle. It happens to me all the time. Alot of the time I actually check even though it kills the WILD. I've never actually WILDed into an ld but i remember one of the 1st times i tried was when i was home sick from school one time and went to take a nap. I tried to WILD and after about 10 minutes I felt like I was being ripped out of my body. I figured i better check if my body had moved or whatever and check to see why the doorbell just rang (package). I figured if it was that easy the first time that I would be able to do it easy again but i've never made it that far again. o well.

**trigotron** · 06-30-2007 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by ThePhobiaViewed

I've never actually WILDed into an ld but i remember one of the 1st times i tried was when i was home sick from school one time and went to take a nap. I tried to WILD and after about 10 minutes I felt like I was being ripped out of my body. I figured i better check if my body had moved or whatever and check to see why the doorbell just rang (package).

Wow, i've never really considered it before, but that's happened to me also! Still i've never gotten SP, but when i'm sick and i take a nap, all sorts of strange feelings of motion happen to me. Now that i think about it, that's also happened to me when i go to sleep after a long day on an airplane, it feels like i'm still moving and it intensifies as i go to sleep. There is a difference between the two for me tho, when i'm sick and i take a nap it's a lot more random, like getting jerked in random directions, and with the airplane thing it's just one constant direction, sometimes even a feeling of falling associated with it.

that I'm somewhat like biggening to feel something strange in my body, and my pupils just want to stare up and up and my eyes want to be opened.

Yeah, i thought it was a good thing when i did it, like "oh, its a FA!" or "oh! cool i see light!" and then i open my eyes and i realize i just opened my eyes in real life and i get pissed =P

**ThePhobiaViewed** · 06-30-2007 08:34 PM

yeah ive never actually flown on an airplane before (pathetic i know) because we dont travel far away. alot of times if we get back late from an amusement park i can still feel the rides moving me around and alot of times get that when u all of a sudden jump in bed (like u get from falling dreams). Its kinda annoying because im talking to a friend online who says he gets sp all the time without trying and was just telling me about how he took a nap and was in sp so he decided to try to ld and he stopped after he heard extremely loud "television fuzz" that freaked him out. The only time I hear sounds is sometimes when im laying in bed every couple of seconds i hear what sounds like waves crashing or some quick static. One night after playing lots of tennis (districts i think) that sound was actually changed to the sound of the ball hitting the fence lol. I need to take more naps and see what i can get to happen but my house is usually noisy (loud computer speakers, my brother is a drummer, my mom yells on the phone lol) so i usually try more at night.

**trigotron** · 06-30-2007 08:41 PM

Thats interesting, maybe some people are just more naturally prone to get SP than you and me. I don't think i've ever heard noises when i'm trying WILD, but maybe that's because there's a fairly loud fan in my room that might be masking them.

**ThePhobiaViewed** · 06-30-2007 08:49 PM

when i hear noises im usually just trying to fall asleep and not WILD so maybe its one of those things that im trying too hard. I would say that one good thing is that i fell asleep trying to WILD a couple nights ago so at least i know i can get relaxed enough. I have a fan in my room too right by me which isnt overly loud but i think its good to have to drown out sounds and help me zone out. The sounds I hear are not very loud above the fan but are relaxing in a way, kind of in a soothing regualrity. I remember alot of dreams but never have sp and i never have nightmares whereas my friend says he always has sp and has nightmares like everynight. I guess thats what he gets for listening to too much Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden lol.

**trigotron** · 06-30-2007 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by ThePhobiaViewed

i fell asleep trying to WILD a couple nights ago so at least i know i can get relaxed enough.

I've only tried it like 6 times, never actually fell asleep tho. The way it always ends is: I think i've gotten to a LD because i've reached ~150 in my counting, my HI stops and there's no images, i think maybe i've reached SP and i try to open my eyes or move an arm and its over. I don't think i could get to sleep in a WILD attempt tho.

I think tonight i'm just gonna go for broke with my WILD attempt, i'll wake up at like 3:30, then i'll just keep counting/staying still until either i fall asleep, see daylight or have a LD. If any of those happens i'll have more information than i have now.

**trigotron** · 07-01-2007 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by trigotron

I think tonight i'm just gonna go for broke with my WILD attempt, i'll wake up at like 3:30, then i'll just keep counting/staying still until either i fall asleep, see daylight or have a LD. If any of those happens i'll have more information than i have now.

Experiment result: got some wierd ass sensations, never got SP and eventually saw daylight.

**Intended** · 06-30-2007 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by trigotron

i gotten "sleep paralysis", i've been lying there for probably 30 minutes and sometimes i get the slight numbness (my first time was actually the best in terms of numbness where i got to the "seems like you're floating" sensation)

That's not sleep paralysis. If you relax well you'll feel this type of sensations, the most common ones are floating, body turning around in the bed, slight numbness, itching, electrical currents, etc. These are relaxation sensations.
Sleep paralysis happen suddenly and you might not notice it. E.g. if you weren't moving at all, you won't notice that you can't move. But it depends on how much sleepy you are: the less sleepy you are the better chances that you notice it, since it will produce strong body sensation and you'll have clearer critical ability.

do i just not feel anything when i get SP?

Once you have SP you're dreaming and it's very difficult to stop it. If you don't get to lucid dreaming, you didn't have SP.

do you ever feel your real body lying in bed while you're having an LD, or does SP take away feeling as well as ability to move?

It's possible to feel it sometimes, or you can switch from one to another.

I can't say what you're doing wrong, maybe not being sleepy enough or getting nervous.

**Silvanus350** · 07-01-2007 01:42 AM

SP is typically unique for each person who attempts it. Note that numbness of the hands/wrists and sudden electrical impulses to your limbs are not themselves indications of SP, your body does that just to relax your muscles.

Personally, I find that SP comes upon me randomly, usually just after I despair of ever having a WILD that night. Sudden vibrations are accompanied by a light "pricks and needles" sensation over my body, which gives way to total paralysis.

It's different for each person though, there are lots of topics that describe the different sensations. Granted, the first three times I tried to have a WILD it didn't work at all (wasted about two hours each night laying in bed) so it's definitely a developed skill.

Don't give up!