OOBE's proved wrong

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Originally Posted by viking-45

you know what..
those stupid scientists are wrong cause when are in an OBE you see things that are actually happening, and that could never happen even if it is the most vivid dream in the world.

they can say whatever they want but OBEs are still real

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Can you do it when you want to?? Because if you can, then why not come
over to my house next Friday night while your OOB, at a specific time,and tell
me what I'm doing then. I'll give you the directions! Also, tell me enough about
what my house looks like inside, that I will believe you. Please!! Someone prove
this to me! I beg you! If you can do it, then I'll believe!!

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Originally Posted by junta700

ok people. 1) if you never had an Obe or ever attempted to have an OBE how the hell can you determine the likelyness or existince of it? 2) your so called "proof" offers nothing to the table, thats not proof, if you want some proof learn how to do it then stare at your body as you float above it, i know LDing cuz i've been doing it for years and i know the difference between being fully weightless vs being in a dreamy haze. 3) you non believers, are all being force fed all this capitalist dogma and propaganda, and false Science, Science has been wrong before dumbasses. 4) and to all the believers you got nothing to prove to these people, let them be ignorant to their own nature. "We should judge through our eyes not the eyes of others" thats something they should do. So go on with your lifes because this topic is dead.

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I've just told you, this is what i do do!! I can stare at my body while
floating above it in my bedroom while im having a lucid dream! I can
even float back down to it till im face to face with it and touch it!
I can look at my face perfectly!
When I leave my body it's as if I am a spirit leaving it.
When I wake up its like im tumbling back into my body as if i were a
spirit! And its as real as real as real as real can be!! We have excellent
memory of everything in our rooms and houses and of ourselves, and
thats why I can see everything so well when I slip out of my body like
a spirit. It's not fuzzy at all!. At least I know that my OOBEs are not
real. I'll never believe yours are either...prove it to me then! Come
and tell me what I look like then, or what anything in my house looks
like....please!

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Originally Posted by Mocari

Now i never said believing in science makes someone cold. What i did mean to say is that i don't believe science covers the entire truth. It may one day do that, but i don't think that would be the best choice.

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Science isn't cold. If you didn't believe in scientific research then you
wouldn't get vaccines or any medication or even surgery. Where the
hell would we be without scientists? And science is 'always open-
minded' and ready to study anything you can prove. It will say
it was wrong when you prove that to it as well.
Unproved beliefs are 'closed-minded', in my experience.