Lucid Dream Nightmare Causes Bleeding

[O'nus]

A'hoy hoy, As a child, I had hallucinations when first realizing I had lucid dreams (false awakenings caused several problems). I had normal dreams that turned to nightmares which contained a consistent demon that represented all that I feared. That was when I was 7. The past two days I have had lucid dreams interrupted by this demon, as though he was an unwanted hacker invading my sanctuary of dreams. The first time, his wailing, stern, ominous voice, that also sounded with the whimpering of a small childs, and as it played backwards at the sametime (also sounded muffled), along with the wailing of thousands of people in pain, it said to be, "I am back." Through it's blood encrusted armor and with his rotten and bleeding lips. The first time he came into my dreams, nothing happened other than an immense amount of fear. I rationalized it and I felt better, not afraid anymore, and deemed it a conscious collection of stress induced symbolism throughout my dreams - that the demon was nothing more than a figment of my stress and problems projected in my dreams, and they are so strong that they can come present even in lucid dreams. However, I then had another lucid dream this morning, and he came to me again (during meditation). He stares at me and rambled on jibberish I couldn't quite understand, and I felt my skin burn.. it felt as though I was burning to death, or melting.. I just recently studied all about the somatosensory pathway and the receptors of pain and temprature along with results from my previous blood tests and functional magnetic resonance imagining (fMRI), to find that there is nothing abnormal through my cortex or thalamus - my periqueductal grey and reticular formation are perfectly fine and normal. Even more, my ventral posterior medial nucleus has abnormal synaptic firing, but abnormal in the sense as advanced. I do not theorise that can effect my fear, however, as it is not affiliated with the amygdala or primarily active during REM sleep. Aside from reductionist guesses, and the result of which I mean: I woke up to find my nose bleeding, my mouth full of blood, and rashes on my arm that were not present before. I am perfectly healthy, no cold, no skin reactions, no laundry detergent change recently, nothing that could have a key elemental significant change to my physiological structure. I fear for I still have random nose bleeds, and I feel my ears aching sometimes - I especially fear bleeding from my ears or eyes. Have not been taking drugs lately either, and my diet has not dramatically changed at all. The only co-related incident I can theorise is my relationship problems. But why would relationship problems be projected through a demon from my childhood? Anyways, that's the drift of it. Thank you to anyone whom reads and I look forward to your feedback. Thank you, ~ O'nus Edit: (This is very important to) I always called this demon by the name of Bloodshed.

[CT]

Whoa, that is frightening... Perhaps, you got a bloody nose, and it dripped down in your throat and mouth and you tasted it, but didnt know it in your dream but still noticed it somehow, and it manifested as your demon? Perhaps because of your previous encounter the your demon was on your mind? I dunno about the rashes...

[killfrenzy]

Thats some scary stuff! Reminds me of nightmare on elm street. Mybe you scratched at your arms during your slepp and caused the rashes but id be worried if my ears started bleeding, have you seen a doctor? I wasnt sure after reading your post whether you had carrie dout those tests on yourself...

[O'nus]

Originally posted by CT Whoa, that is frightening... Perhaps, you got a bloody nose, and it dripped down in your throat and mouth and you tasted it, but didnt know it in your dream but still noticed it somehow, and it manifested as your demon? Perhaps because of your previous encounter the your demon was on your mind? I dunno about the rashes... I havn't had any bleeding before when I dreamed of this demon as a child.. And I have had nose bleeds in the middle of my sleep before and dreampt happily, much like most people. My first encounter, the demon came to me in a dark and desolate library filled with archaic books and medieval art. He came from an endless aisle of suicidal books where the ground was covered in wailing corpses. He is over ten feet tall, wearing thick crimson covered armor, his fingers are long, jagged, and claw-like. He wears a skull like helmet which emanates his dark red eyes that usually glow enough to illuminate out of the helmet.. and I can see his lips, which are bruised and bleed. He is sometimes holding three stars and his hand is impaled by a long sword. (His left hand). He also randomly bleeds from every orifice of the armor. (This is why I call him Bloodshed). His return came to me as I was meditating in my lucid dream as I usually do; on a very large pillar stretching out of an endless ocean. His face was dim in the sky as it turned dark and seemed to smear as he whispered, "I am coming back.." My recent dream, he came to me as I was visiting a garden, and he came to me while walking through a garden of crosses that is on fire (I incorporated this dream image into my new poem title "Man in the Artists Section). So there you have it - the ecounters... generally.

[CT]

[Alric]

Since you said you had nose bleeds while sleeping before, and it only happened once I would say its a coincident and the dream didn't cause it. I can see how that would be scary though. Its good that you try and think he is not real except seeing as how you gave him a name you might not really believe it fully even if you say it. What do you normally do when you see him? Ever try talking to him?

[Death-Wuad]

o'nus, this has got to be the scariest thing ive ever heard... hears my advice: dont give it a name, and tell it to fuck off! *edit* I hear verbal commands are very effective

[Lomebririon]

I have a feeling that things that command a prescence like that don't feel the need to fuck off when you tell them to. Have you ever tried talking to him? Like asking him why he has decided to come back at this point in time. Maybe something you did as a child sealed him away in your subconscious, and perhaps a sudden, sharp change in your life has given him what he wanted; a doorway back into your dreams. Your nose bleed and rashes may be a form of payback. Bloodshed might be your embodiment of fear and worries of an uncertain future. But I don't know, I have a vivid imagination.

[Ivanushka]

"what happens in the Matrix happens in real life too"

[Seeker]

Scary thing O'nus!! Perhaps yor blood pressure became elevated enough during your dream to cause all this? You are not on any blood thinners by any chance are you?

[jacobo]

did the rashes go away? is the weather warmer than it usually is where you live? can you think of absolutely anything different in your room? perhaps a piece of art or a picture from your youth or of your family. have you talked with any old friends or relatives lately? if not you might want to re-hash some communication there. have you been listening to any new type of music? anything that's more aggressive? are your dreams normally effected by little things from every day life? what kind of relationship problems are they? (if you don't mind me asking) is it just being away from her? or perhaps more troublesome? did you have problems with your mother when a child? might your relationship problems be invoking subconscious thoughts of any problems you had with mothers/sisters? i would see a doctor, maybe you have an ear infection or something of that nature. if you want to combat the demon, doing so in an LD would give you the best advantage... like others have said talking to the demon might give you some more leads or solve the problem all together. i don't suppose fighting him would do any good... except maybe to put your perception of him in your dreams in a new light. just throwing around thoughts. *** my reasoning for the questions... weather greatly effects my dreams. it's summer here and it's about 97 degrees when i go to bed (11:00 or so) and lately i've been thirsty and not been able to quench my thirst in the dream world. very frustrating. -- also it could have been a heat rash... coincidence? the atmosphere of my room greatly effects my dreams. i recently put a poster across from my bed and the poster gives the release date of an album... for weeks i couldn't figure out why i kept seeing "june 5th 2001" in my dreams. i tried to figure out what happened that day in my life but to no avail... then i noticed the poster and kicked myself. the old friends and relatives thing came about when i didn't talk to my best friend since age 5 for about a month... i couldn't stop dreaming about him. music seems to influence my dreams greatly. as you can probably already tell, "the little things" greatly effect my dream world. the relationship could be the biggest factor. while i try to stay away from freud's view on sex ruling your mind i can't help but think that a deprived body would put stress on the mind. of course all these questions are relative to my experiences but they might be able to help you too.

[O'nus]

Originally posted by adidas did the rashes go away? is the weather warmer than it usually is where you live? The rashes have gone away now, thanks to some cortisol cream. The weather is decent and pretty normal for this time of year. can you think of absolutely anything different in your room? perhaps a piece of art or a picture from your youth or of your family. [/b] This is the newest poster in my room: It has no relevance in my life at all other than the brain in the background and the demons look cool. have you talked with any old friends or relatives lately? if not you might want to re-hash some communication there.[/b] Possibly.. that can possibly have a relation.. I lost my friendship with some friends that I would play role-playing games with, and I had played as a character named BludShed with them.. But I don't see how they co-relate, as I don't care that they are gone from my life, and I have not thought of them much at all lately.. have you been listening to any new type of music? anything that's more aggressive?[/b] I've been listening to Godspeed You ! Black Emeperor, which is an orchestra, quite mellow. I've started listening to more Radiohead.. *Shrugs* No aggression really there. are your dreams normally effected by little things from every day life?[/b] Always, they all culminate to form a manifest dream to project all the problems and benefits of the day. Bloodshed is from my youth though.. what kind of relationship problems are they? (if you don't mind me asking) is it just being away from her? or perhaps more troublesome? did you have problems with your mother when a child? might your relationship problems be invoking subconscious thoughts of any problems you had with mothers/sisters?[/b] It's more or less just the distance. My relationship with my mother is as perfect as can be really. The relationships are perfectly normal and fine really besides distance and sometimes moaning about the consequences because of distance. I also never repressed Bloodshed as I saw him as a potential part of myself and knew that repression would only make 'him' stronger. I embraced him and even made BludShed my own nick name for a long time (during my teen years). I never tried talking to him for I am always too afraid and when I even try to bring up any words, I feel he won't listen anyway, that it is useless to try. Much like someone who is about to kill you. Thank you all for your feedback, I really appreciate your help, as I don't know what is going on..

[jacobo]

i vote the poster just stirred memories and the rash and sore ears is some sort of subtle allergen.

[Alric]

Between the poster and using his name it doesn't really shock me you had a dream like that.

[O'nus]

The poster is responsible for this?? That seems very hard to believe. It's not even the size of a regular poster, and I cannot see it from my bed. Using free association with the poster, I will look at it now and type all thoughts that come to my mind: Reminds me of Rifts (the RPG) Rifts reminds me of time spent with old friends Reminds me of playing as BloodShed Hmmm... However, this problem and association still does not work well because I have Rifts books all over my room and pictures I drew of my character BludShed - I have always have Rifts things strewn about my room; things that look much more 'evil' than this poster. In fact, if you click on the following link, it will show a picture of what I usually picture BludShed as, and his profile: Link The different thing about my room is that I have written quotations onto sticky-notes and posted them all over my walls along with pictures of friends and what not. A typical theme in my room.. *Highly disagrees to point the blame of such a demon on this poster* I wouldn't have posted the poster in my room if it bothered me. I had a lucid dream of a war occuring in the town I currently live in. I was trying to find my way through the screaming gunfire over the firey wreckage of the town to safety as bodies dropped, riddled by gunfire, in my way followed by crying agony and spraying blood that blinds my eyes. Then BloodShed appeared and slaughtered everyone fighting; both sides, with a large flamberge and magical spells (just typical offensive energy spells, some similar to Rifts spells). And then when the entire town realizes that this one demon is slaughtering everyone, the two armies teamed up and started to crowd at him and try to destroy him (which kills a few people in the rushing crowd to destroy him). Although this is when BloodShed would drop his flamberge and a sonic blast would erupt from him, sending the armies about him flying a distance away in a large radius, knocking everyone else over like domino's. The sky would then change color and the wind would change direction followed by a rumble of the ground. Then BloodShed would stand motionless as claw-like hands would erupt from the ground, shredding the earth and pulling themselves upwards. Various demons pull themselves upwards from the ground that look like they were brewed from the nightmares of children. Bloody claws and maws, dislocated jaws, flailing tongues, rotting flesh.. They would then utterly slaughter the armies that are not only on their feet, but shocked in fright. There's some more elaboration and my newest occurance with BLoodShed. I would have tried talking to him, but he was too busy killing other people in my dream. Thank you again to anyone reading this.[/url]

[Alric]

Well there you go. I don't think its the poster but the added affect of all the stuff in your room and in your life. When you say you have no idea what caused it, it gives the impression that you can't think of even one thing that might do it. From listening to you talk though it sounds more like you can't think of what caused it because there are to many possible things to narrow it down to just one thing. I am kind of surpised they ever stopped. I think one day you thought about him a little more often and then remebered all the stuff and had the dream. Then if you see him once its easy to see him more often. You gave him a name, maybe you should call for him using it.

[jacobo]

well ya see i was under the impression that this poster was new and one of a kind. the only reason i thought it provoked the dreams was because it depicted demons. but if you had pictures of demons already... well that shoots my theory to shit. also, the link wasn't working. "account inactive" or something like that.

[O'nus]

Re-activated the page.. oops, lol: Here's the link (BludShed) The biggest thing I don't get is what he represents; even if all these things remind me of him, why is he so frightening? What does he signify? Sorry if I seemed rude rebuffing your theory adidas, I really do appreciate it, seriously. I could use all the help I can get since I am just confused. I have yet to bleed elsewhere.. although since Bloodshed killed other people in my dream, if someone else starts bleeding randomly, then I'll be a little more frightened..

[Alric]

It doesn't have to mean anything, its just a dream. I am going to take a guess though. Maybe you like him and you think it would be fun to play him. You want to roleplay the big evil guy that beats everyone up. There is nothing wrong with that, though dreams can seem a lot more real than you first think. Maybe the people looking so real threw you off. Nothing wrong with it when its fake, which a dream is but of course you dont want to kill anyone or see demon oozing out blood in real life and a dream looks just as real even if its not.

[Evanescent]

The link still doesn't work.

[O'nus]

What's a url to host pictures? Geocities is sucking the cock

[CT]

www.imageshack.us

[CT]

You liked to roleplay as him... You mean you just used some aspects of what you encountered in your dream or you really tried to roleplay your inner deamon... Perhaps you have some kinda unknown scary multiple personality disorder where the characters come to life from your roleplaying

[O'nus]

Here he is in full armor. His helmet differs from when he is battling in armies and haunting me. Might look familiar to some people.. Thanks CT!

[Evanescent]

I don't see any blooad around the armor.