Thread: Flying While Lucid

So I need a bit of help...

I fly a lot when I'm lucid. I often fly a lot when I'm not as well. Whether or not I'm lucid, I'm afraid to fly higher than telephone poles. I get the same overwhelming feeling in each form of dreaming that if I go higher than a telephone pole, I'll fly too high and get sucked into outter space. I truly freak out in my dreams. Its a very scary feeling for me, and I don't want to feel that way anymore.

I read dreams about people flying into outter space and it sounds like an amazing experience.

I want to overcome my fear of heights, so to speak, in my dreams.
It is my own personal task to fly into outter space and then allow myself to free-fall back to earth. But I don't know how to go about getting over my fear.

Has anyone had similar problems? How have you gone about conquering your fear? If you haven't had a similar problem, do you have any suggestions?

this may not have to do with flying, but usually when I have a fear that I want to get over, I just dont think about it. I just do it. I try not to think of when or how I'm going to do it, I just think "okay... now!" and I get to it. It works for me because then I dont have time to talk myself out of it or even start getting scared. It might not work for everyone, but it's a suggestion.

There's really not all that much I can reccomend because you already know dreams occur in your own head.

Are you afraid of heights in real life? if so, dreams can be a fantastic time to just mess around with no real harm coming to you, that alone should help it feel more like a "practice run" rather than a place you have to follow your phobias that exist during the day.

If not, then it should't be all that hard to convince yourself that there is nothing to be afraid of.

I've had some similar fear...well, not quite, but it seems that although some of our rational thought is there, we still can't help but be afraid...holding us back.

You may want to try visualizing one of these lucids where you're afraid to fly higher than, like you said, telephone pole height. Just take a few moments during the day (or evening), whenever you get free time, lay down somewhere and see it happen...just for the hell of it, imagine flying high...it must still be thrilling in some way. As much harm that comes to you while laying in bed or wherever, visualizing flying in an LD, is as much that will happen in the dream itself...0

Oh, another thing that may help you, since it seems you can fly, but are just fearful is imagining a kind of platform beneath you. Imagine your sitting on a platform postioned on a large arm, it can go as high as you like or as low, and you need not feel any fear...

I wish you luck with your goals...and well...courage- You can be an astronaut as well as an oneironaut...

Cheerio

lagunagirl-- i find it hard not to think about it which is why im asking for advice. but i do appreciate your input.

bro-- i am afraid of heights in real life, but only when im not strapped into something (i.e., roller coaster, airplane). as long as there's something around me or i'm in something, it doesn't bother me. but looking off the top of a mountain or even leaning on a railing on the second floor of a building (it makes me feel like it'll break and i'll fall and die).

You can be an astronaut as well as an oneironaut

you always make me smile

thanks for your advice. you know i always appreciate everything you say to me.

Telephone wires dictating the maximum flight height is mentioned in EWLD. Apparently, it's fairly common! I believe TwoShadows had mentioned it happening to her as well.

I have a smiliar restriction, but not always. I tend to be able to get about 50 feet up, and just get "stuck" on a glass ceiling. At least it's some progress for me. It used to be that I couldn't stay aloft at all... everything was more like a big slow-motion jump that could carry me about a block or so.

Why don't you just fly somewhere where there aren't any telephone wires?

Or maybe get on a plane and jump out of it.

Originally Posted by skysaw

Telephone wires dictating the maximum flight height is mentioned in EWLD. Apparently, it's fairly common! I believe TwoShadows had mentioned it happening to her as well.

I have a smiliar restriction, but not always. I tend to be able to get about 50 feet up, and just get "stuck" on a glass ceiling. At least it's some progress for me. It used to be that I couldn't stay aloft at all... everything was more like a big slow-motion jump that could carry me about a block or so.

Wow, really? I actually feel a lot better now that I know it's common. I'll have to take a look at what that thread states. Maybe that could give me some answers. Maybe there's a meaning to it that I'm not seeing. I couldn't imagine TS not being able to fly that high, all of her dreams she flies or falls backward in, she's up really high. A glass ceiling? Do you think there's a meaning to that which you don't see?

Edit: Just read the acronym list and saw that EWLD is a book. Silly me. I'll just google it.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Why don't you just fly somewhere where there aren't any telephone wires?

Or maybe get on a plane and jump out of it.

If I get lucid any time soon, I'll try relocating to an area with telephone wires. I don't think I'd be able to jump out of a plane. What I really want to do is freefall from space like you have before.

Originally Posted by meggyfayephotography

So I need a bit of help...

I fly a lot when I'm lucid. I often fly a lot when I'm not as well. Whether or not I'm lucid, I'm afraid to fly higher than telephone poles. I get the same overwhelming feeling in each form of dreaming that if I go higher than a telephone pole, I'll fly too high and get sucked into outter space. I truly freak out in my dreams. Its a very scary feeling for me, and I don't want to feel that way anymore.

I read dreams about people flying into outter space and it sounds like an amazing experience.

I want to overcome my fear of heights, so to speak, in my dreams.
It is my own personal task to fly into outter space and then allow myself to free-fall back to earth. But I don't know how to go about getting over my fear.

Has anyone had similar problems? How have you gone about conquering your fear? If you haven't had a similar problem, do you have any suggestions?

My lucid self has a fear of large bodies of water i.e. the ocean. So you're not alone regarding dream fears. The best way to conquer fear is to CONQUER your fear. Incubate a dream in which you are on top of an extremely tall building and you are on the ledge getting ready to jump. Find it eclectic, and not fearful...nothing bad will happen.

So not too long ago, I had a lucid dream, or at least a fragment of the dream was lucid. I was, of course, flying. And the only part of the dream I remember was flying higher than the telephone wires. I was scared but I told myself that I was dreaming and I have no reason to be afraid. I even thought about flying up into space to see what would have happened, but in my dream I was in search of something and decided not to get off track. I think if I chose to fly into space, I would have remained lucid longer, and I would have been able to remember more of the dream. But I am surely proud of myself for finally beginning to overcome my fear of flying high.

You have to realize the truth... that there are no telephone wires.

Yeah, just been thinking about the Matrix ever since Neo was at the halloween party last night.

lol i've never seen the matrix, so if your comment about there being no telephone wires was from that movie... i'm totally lost hehe

Originally Posted by meggyfayephotography

So not too long ago, I had a lucid dream, or at least a fragment of the dream was lucid. I was, of course, flying. And the only part of the dream I remember was flying higher than the telephone wires.

I recently dramatically broke through my dream "ceiling" as well. I just kept going and going straight up, flew to the sun and exploded!

Originally Posted by skysaw

I recently dramatically broke through my dream "ceiling" as well. I just kept going and going straight up, flew to the sun and exploded!

AHHH YOU EXPLODED??!!!!!

*doesn't want to fly high anymore*

Originally Posted by meggyfayephotography

AHHH YOU EXPLODED??!!!!!

*doesn't want to fly high anymore*

Trust me, it was fantastic! I'd do it again in a second.