Thread: why do i bother?

i do 10-20 RC every day. i do affirmations at night and ahve a journal ready to write down dreams. it has remained empty for 2 months.

so i had some salvia......was awesome but didnt affect my dreams
had calea...nothing happened...no dream recall
had mugwort last night....no dream recall..let alone lucid dreams!
already take B6 anyway for other things...nothing

quit weed for a while, didnt help...

what the hell is wrong with my mind...i want to dream

neb

I like salvia.













Oh, anyway, you could try melatonin. I don't know; it may work. Or you could just let it happen naturally to you. You do in fact dream, but some people have a really hard time remembering dreams. My friend is one of these people; it's interesting to hear how excited they sound when they finally vividly remember a dream from the night before... Try looking around for dream recall suggestions and tips. Sometimes I find random stimuli in the mornings sparks a memory of a dream I had that night about something similar. You could try compounding a list of total random words that somewhat center around objects, people, or events in your life and read it in the morning each day after waking up. It may work.

Good luck to you and your pursuit. I hope you'll soon find what you've been looking for..

All good points.

Argh and the decision between weed and dreams...argh...Dammit both make me so happy

Try, when you wake up, to keep your eyes closed as long as possible (without falling back asleep!)
I find this preserves some subconscious activity.

Also, if you're really desperate, try setting your alarm clock at various intervals during the night, in hopes that it might wake you right from the middle of a dream. It might help you with dream recall later on.

Do you snore? I once saw some research suggesting smoking (of any kind) can cause you to snore, which would prohibit you from dreaming. If your journal is staying empty for 2 months, thats a problem, make a habit to at least write down something in there, like- "I can't recall any dreams tonight, but I did have a feeling this morning as if I did have a dream, but didn't remember it". Writing in my journal, no matter what it is, tends to work wonders for me.

You know what, maybe trying too hard is the problem?

I can usually recall atleast 3-5 dreams a night, but after joining the site I've become so excited about LDs.. lol.. that now I can only remember one a night!!!!

So, my personal technique tonight is just going to be to relax and not think too much about it.

By the way, B6 doesn't work for me either.

setting an alarm clock diff times durin the night is a good idea, also try not takin b6 for a while, i think i built up a tolerance to it. i stopped for like two weeks after taking them every day, then the first day i started up again i had vivid and multiple dreams that night.

Smoovd, how much do you take? Maybe taking too *much* won't work.. which is what I may have been doing.

i was only takin 50-100 mg a day, but i stopped cuz i dont really need them any more, how much do you take?

For one, you should write ANYTHING that you can remember about your dreams in your dream journal (such as feelings or images or even the first thing you thought of when you woke up).
Set your alarm really early in the morning. REM is the most intense in the morning and waking someone up during an REM period usually makes them rememeber his/her dreams more. Once you wake up, don't move (moving might bring you "closer to reality" if you know what I mean...). If you don't remember any dreams right away, ask yourself what dreams you had and hopefully you'll remember something.
Another strategy is getting someone or something to make your senses sense something while your in your REM period. Ways to do this are...

1. Get some perfume or something that smells and get someone or something to spray it near your nose while you're in your REM period (people can tell if you're in your REM period, just tell them "symptoms"). In the morning, spray the same perfume or smell in front of your nose and focus on the smell, you might trigger a memory of a dream.

2. Get something or someone to affect your sense of touch. A vibrating watch would work for this, but also someone pulling on your leg or something like that. In the morning, ask what the person did (pull your hair, pull your leg/arm) and ask yourself if you had any dreams that you felt that sensation.

3. Get something to affect your sense of sight. The novadreamer works by shining light in your eyes, but get someone to do that while your in your REM period because the novadreamer is a rip off. In the morning, you ask yourself if you remember any intense lights of any form.

4. Get something or someone to affect your hearing. One time someone and his little brother were sleeping over and we spoke in his ear during the REM period. We said stuff like, "You're at the zooooooo and the animals are everrrryyywhereeee." When we woke him up and asked him if he had any dreams like that, he said that he had a dream he was at the zoo and animals were chasing him. When the person asks if you had any dreams like that, it might trigger a memory. This method would probably work the best.

Hope I helped, sorry for the long post...

I took 200 mg before bed for 2 days without any results. What time of day do you think it's best to take them?

Last night I set my alarm so I could do the WBTB method, and something crazy was going on. I think I had a FA and then I started seeing things and yeah. It was generally freaking me out, so I decided to just forget about LDing that night and sleep.

The mind is the controllinng factor in inducing lucidity.

And their is a certain paradigm that you should adobpt to ensre it. Regardless of how many times you follow the steps, how much you WANT to have a lucid dream, how many drugs you take, and how many tricks you use if you donot BELIEVE t hat you can have a lucid dream then it has all failed.

A belief changes subconsciously before it changes consciously. Also, their are certain things that you know are untrue but because you believe them on an unconscious level you still hold true to that. That's how some people are still halfway afraid of the dark.

You msut BELIEVE that you can have a lucid dream. You must have the unriveled confiddence that sooner or later you will have a lucid dream. That you can do this.

Not believing that you can have a lucid dream and going still going through the processes to do so is like building a building with no foundation.

Also you must not beat yourself up. Instead of saying negative self talk say something positive. At firsrt it may seem like your lying to yourself but quickly it will mold into a habit that will beneift you greatly.

Adapt this point of view to the art of lucid dreaming and you'll do fine. Also, I recommend self-hypnosis. It's a powerful technique that I used to use back when I had to actually try to induce lucidity.

Originally posted by Nebulae
i do 10-20 RC every day. i do affirmations at night and ahve a journal ready to write down dreams. it has remained empty for 2 months.

so i had some salvia......was awesome but didnt affect my dreams
had calea...nothing happened...no dream recall
had mugwort last night....no dream recall..let alone lucid dreams!
already take B6 anyway for other things...nothing

quit weed for a while, didnt help...

what the hell is wrong with my mind...i want to dream

neb

Think of it this way, sometimes an untrained mind will always do the opposite of what you want it to. It's all about tricking your subconscious into doing something that you 'don't' want it to do. In other words, try to make yourself uninterested in lucid dreaming, then one night it'll just happen. It's got it's bad points though because you can't plan for your ld and when you do have it it'll leave you just as quickly as it came.

Yeah.. less excitement is good. I usually remember 3-5 dreams a night, but then I was like, "Okay, tonight I'm gonna wake up after every dream and remember it!" and I ended up barely remembering ONE! Then, by chance, something during the day jogged my memory.. but still!

No! No less excitement! You gotta go out and party! Vive Cuero!, Malibu, Smirnoff, Bacardi, Arbor Mist, Dessarrono (on the rocks), Kaluha! Rave parties, frat parties, block parties, night clubs, house parties, and even some birthday parties! Try it all in one night if you're daring!

Well... once you're IN an LD!!

HEY... you should get a friend to come here and sign on as "gle".. so you can be Jin and Gle! Get it get it get it???

Anyway, in Nebulae's particular case, I think less excitement is good. But that doesn't mean I'm right. It's not like I bring on LDs with a wave of my little finger!

Hahaha! JinGle I get it. But really, rave party on the Spaceland Heights bridge, es van muy divertida!

Okay, fine. Rave party. Can I join your's? If I do, though, you HAVE to tell me I'm dreaming. Or if I say "Am I dreaming?", don't say no.

thanks guys for your help. i had a dream last night. i only remember one paragraph of thought i had within the dream but it is a start.
cheers.

You want better dream recall? before you get up just stay lying down. Don't move. Keep your eyes closed for a while until your dream begins to come to you. It helps for a lot of people.

Hey good job!

You'll be writing novels in no time.

I'm working on a novel. But you'll have to check it out in the 'artists forum'.

I'm skipping everything that was written for now and Im telling you that you are trying to hard. trying to hard won't get you anywhere. Take a 2-3 week break. Lucid dreams usually follow.

Yeah, just let them come to you. You'll be surprised how fast it happens! 8)

Scwigglie, i would take b6 either in the morning after breakfast or around 5 when i got back from work, it didnt seem to work for me if i took them right before bed. ive also read somewhere that sometimes it makes it harder to fall asleep if you take them right before bed

As it's been said before, when you realize you have awaken, don't move. Keep your eyes closed and try to recall and reflect on your dreams. Try to remember all that happened. When I change my body position in this state, it feels like a big portion of my remembering-ability being stripped from me. It just makes it much more difficult, resulting in less chances of higher recall.