I just told a friend via MSN after an awesome WILD I just had.
He just kept sending me emoticons like this: :?
I think he thinks I'm weird now. Bleh, whatever.
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I just told a friend via MSN after an awesome WILD I just had.
He just kept sending me emoticons like this: :?
I think he thinks I'm weird now. Bleh, whatever.
Yeah, they are jealous of it... I told three friends about this... I explained WBTB and techniques relating to that... My friend said, you're so weird, who in the world would do that... The other person said, Yeah, I've heard about it... The last person said I've been looking up stuff on lucid dreaming... It's pretty cool...Quote:
Originally Posted by photodreamer
Well he heard me say the words "lucid dreaming" to my friend, and he asked what it was. So I saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant
"it's when you realize that you're dreaming and can control what you do." he asked why I would want to do that and I said
"Because you can do what you want with the dream and it feels like you're awake." So he laughed and said stuff like
"sure... okay. So how would you even know that you're dreaming if you feel like you're awake then?" and I told him about reality checks. I said absolutely nothing about the internet and mentioned that I've done it before, so it's not that he thinks I just got over-excited about an ad. And the way I said it didn't sound like voodoo/magic, it just sounded like... well...dreaming, but in a different way. Where do you suppose I went wrong with that? My dad usually seems so interested in psychological things like that.
But for some reason afterward he said "well if I could lucid dream I would probably do something like talk to animals" as if he was interested, but still didn't believe me.
I dont know what's worse though, someone like my dad who thinks it's too weird to be true or someone like my sister who doesn't understand that a lucid dream is better than any normal dream and wonders why in the world I would want to do something like that.
I think lucid dreaming is definitely one of those things that you just can't appreciate until it's happened to you. It's no reflection on your ability to explain, and no reflection (necessarily) on their open- or closed-mindedness. Try explaining the taste of chocolate, the love of God, sex, or an amazing song, to someone who hasn't experienced it themselves, and they just won't get it, you couldn't possibly make them understand.
I had my first LD when I was a child, and it was amazing beyond description! I think if someone else was trying to explain it to me, and I had not experienced it myself, my reaction would have probably been, "Whatever." I mean, it might sound interesting to me, but unless you've experienced it for yourself, it's going to go right over your head like whenever someone explains anything that's interesting to them.
I ordered Stephen LaBerge's book "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming", and then read it myself, and left it in the bathroom for them to read, and eventually my Mom and Dad both picked it up and read it and were interested in it.
Thats the best way I think. Let them figure it out on there own afterwards.
My mom and dad both were into the idea of it, and my dad tried the MILD technique even because he was interested in it enough. My mom wasn't so much interested in it to the point where she would purposely try for them, but she's like me in the sense that she's interested in dreaming, and she's even had a few of them herself. So she doesn't discount it, but she doesn't actively try for Lucids. My Brother is the one who's hardest to convince. He knows about it, but doesn't care to hear about it or try to have them, because he says "Its just a dream.", and no matter how I explain it to him, he just shrugs it off as being a dream and so doesn't care.
Anyway, the best bet, would be to get some Lucid Dreaming material, and leave it where you know they'll read it (the bathroom like I did for example), and maybe they'll get into it more often and understand it better.
It's not that it's weird but that it's a waste of time to them. If U think about it from a non-lucid dreamer point of view, the first question that comes to mind is.."What's the point". Then U'd say "So that U can do any damn thing U want". Then they'd say " Y would I want to do that?". So lucid dreaming is for people who are wanting more out of life than just getting a job, having kids and surviving the next day.Quote:
Originally Posted by lagunagirl
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well with my family things were kinda like "o really? i heard about that" my aunt knows about lucid dreaming and she thinks its just used for cripple people. my mom and dad act like its common knowledge and didnt really care about it. my bro tried it and got only one lucid and quit when i was getting more. now he tries to make fun of me becuase i can do it.:lol: i wish people could understand the impossible things that can be done with lucid dreaming. but now i keep it to myself and try to only tell intelligent people about it. (sad thing is most of my friends are not.....umm.... deep thinkers.)
Well becuse if you think about, if someone has not experianced it, it will seem like it is a crazy idea. Especially if your a parent. Hell, iv tried telling my own friends about it and they think its a stupid and crazy idea. But hey their loss.
You sould start a bet with them, tell them to do routien RC's and to keep a DJ and se if they have a lucid dream after at least 1 month. And if they don't belive you after that then you'll just have to live with it.
I'd just let the issue go. The ones without open minds can suffer this HUGE loss if they want to.
I guess I'm lucky that my family is rather open to the idea of lucid dreaming. The only problem I've ever had is that I left my alarm clock(set for 3 AM) on one night when I wasn't home. Quite the rude awakening for my dad and stepmom.:P
My dad is interested enough to ask me what happened in my LD's every now and then, I've even got a friend to do it with me. A lot of my friends have tried before bed but gave up because it didnt work. :P
haha been there. Except for me, my dad asked why it went off and I didn't have any other explination. And I didn't want to tell him what it was really for either. (this was before I went all out telling about lucid dreaming)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pastulio_
Yeah my dad flipped when I was trying to explain hypnagognia. Generally I don't mention it to people who don't seem to care. Perhaps letting people find out about it themselves (somehow) will be more interesting for them. Instead of people thinking that you're talking about some new age stuff and labeling you "weird" forever.
i told my mom about it, and she has had some lucids when she was younger. she is pretty cool about it. and my bf does it. i havent had a real LD yet, but i want to so bad. but i tell my mom about stuff and she is pretty cool about it.
Why some people fail to realize the usefulness of lucid dreaming is beyond me. It allows one to attemp things they havn't done in real life, or things that are physically impossible in real life. It's one of the greatest tools in learning about who you are as a person (Or as a draconic overlord in another starsystem, that's the beauty of it). And, on the flipside, it's the greatest entertainment in existence (imo).
You might as well ask them why they do things that make them happy.
Oh, and Lagunagirl, have you tried asking your father what a dream is? And how he can hear and see things in his sleep? Hah, you might want to claim that you don't know what it is to dream, and then end up refusing to believe him instead. Think he'll catch your meaning?
A good comback might have been, "Clearing out a military base does not include taking down the walls."Quote:
Originally Posted by Snivellus
Meh. For me it feels like shooting myself in the foot when telling people about it...
"Hey, I just found out about something called Lucid Dreaming, it's about where you have a dream and become aware of it and can control it in a godlike way! I'm still trying to be able to have one!"
"Yeah, I had one yesterday."
"D:"
Well that was my two friends. My mom sees it like having more work to do, she dosn't seem interested. Otherwise almost everyone I told have had one so far :l
I want to have them too!
People just aren't open minded, no one that I know, knows what I can do because I know they will have the same reaction as your parents. It's a shame really but that's how life works, besides you know better and that's all you can really say to yourself.
p.s I did tell my little brother, he thinks it's cool and is jealous :P
Wow, I never even thought Lucid dreaming could garner such a negative response. I feel really lucky now, all the friends I've told about it have been completely accepting. One even managed to have a few lucid dreams of her own. I don't think I've ever talked to my parents about it. Hmm, I should try, they're doctors, and lucid dreams are sort of related to medical science, I guess.
This certainly deters my desire to tell someone I know about my quest for lucidity. I told my friend about lucid dreaming but failed to mention (intentionally) that I was going out of my way to try and develop this skill. All in all he seemed rather nonplussed and I was like don't you think that's awesome? All he said was "I don't remember my dreams." and I said you could if you started a DJ. End of conversation. Some people just don't get the awesome potential of LDs. I rarely remembered my dreams before I started my DJ but that didn't stop me.
I can't believe people keep running into that problem. I don't see how people in their right minds could think lucid dreaming is not possible, and it is really crazy to think it is some kind of superstition voodoo hocus pocus stuff. Any time you run into somebody who is not only going to assume that lucid dreaming is impossible but also that you are a liar, I think there is a way to get that person to either admit what you are saying or else sound like a complete moron. Ask him/her if it is possible to dream that you are running. Then ask if it is possible to dream that you are flying. Ask if it is possible to dream that you are invisible and teleporting to other universes. Next ask if it is possible to dream that you are juggling bicycles with elephants on them while surfing down a volcano. Then.... ask if it is possible to dream that you are dreaming. Keep asking for a yes or no answer.
"Yes": That means you made the person understand.
"No.": That means you made the person understand and feel the need to lie about it.
Refusal to give a yes or no answer: That means you made the person understand and feel the need to lie about it and feel the need to dodge the question.
If it is somebody who thinks you are a Salem witch for lucid dreaming, ask the paranoid individual why dreaming about dreaming is witchcraft type stuff but dreaming that you are juggling bicycles with elephants on them is not.
Ya i tried explaining lucid dreaming to a few people before. it didn't go over well...
I understand what your going through. I'd never tell my family actually I already know how close-minded they are. I have told a couple of friends though and while they weren't all that interested they didn't think I was nuts. (I don't think...)
Parents can bog their kids down unknowingly. Making the things they like to do seem meaningless. Parent's should always be open minded with their kids to help them grow as their own person (unless it's harmful to the kid).
Anyways... Don't let it distract you from advancing in lucid dreaming, feel embarrassed or stupid about it. They just aren't interested. Big deal if they don't care, you know? Don't dwell on it. More power to you. I hope you stick with it. :cheeky:
I study psychology for my A Levels and one topic was sleep and dreaming, which I did very well in, no suprise. Two years of LDs and Dreamviews helped. Anyway, at one point we were learning about studies into the existance of lucid dreams. On psychologist trained himself to be able to achieve lucidity. He created a system of communication based entirely off blinking, which he could do while dreaming.
In the experiment, when he went into a lucid dream (which was shown by a change in brian patterns read by a brain scanner) , his colleagues communicated to him with the blinking system. This among psychologists is a very strong study and solid evidence that lucidity does exist.
I don't get why some people find it so hard to believe. After all, it is all in your head. Nothing really unbeliveable about it. People believe in much more... unlikely things. Gods and whatnot. Compared to the existance of an all-powerful being who created the universe, what is so hard to believe about a dream with your own awareness?
thanks! and no worries, I've had too many amazing experiences with lucid dreaming to let someone's negativity stop me from continuing. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TheSixthSide
although I still do feel emberassed when the subject comes up within earshot of any of my family members.