Thread: Specific REM occurance times

Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone knew the times at which you have rem time in, say, a ten hour night's sleep. I know everyones might differentiate but what are the average times?

Cheers fellow lucid dreamers,
Martin

Don't know if this could help here but you do know the basic WBTB method don't you? Wake up after five-six hours sleep?

REM cycles are different for every person, and can vary based on how much or little sleep one had in nights past. REM deficits are made up for later, so if you don't get good REM sleep one night, you'll get more the next.

As a general rule, however, REM sleep doesn't really begin for a good 2 hours or more into sleep. For the initial few hours of sleeping, you're in deep N-REM sleep, and don't dream a whole lot. Soon, though, REM sleep begins, and continues to do so in intervals for ever-increasing lengths of time. These intervals could start at 10-minutes REM, 30-minutes N-REM, and end at 30-60 mins REM, 5-10 minutes N-REM.

Hope that helps!

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

Don't know if this could help here but you do know the basic WBTB method don't you? Wake up after five-six hours sleep?

Yeah I suppose I'm trying to find the most oppertune time to wake up during the wbtb sequence.

And thanks alios that info helps a lot.

So five-six hours is a good time? I'm trying to wake during a dream, so that when I wake I can remember and attempt to reconnect to it.. If you catch my drift.

Waking up during the dream in my opinion is unnecessary, but you can try it for better recall.

But to be on the safe side, let's just four - six hours.

Originally Posted by Sony86

And thanks alios that info helps a lot.

So five-six hours is a good time? I'm trying to wake during a dream, so that when I wake I can remember and attempt to reconnect to it.. If you catch my drift.

No prob. Yeah, you have a better chance of waking up in the middle of a dream the later you sleep in. However, for many, the main purpose of the WBTB method isn't just to increase recall if they happen to wake in the midst of a dream, but rather to make it easier to slip into a WILD. Since your brain is in the later stages of sleep, and already got a good deal of its N-REM sleep, it falls quicker back to REM than it would have earlier in the night. As a result, it's possible to consciously fall into dreaming, something not easily done otherwise.

But yea, I too find it easier to remember dreams if I'm waken up right in the middle. My advice would be to make a schedule/routine so that you get the same amount of sleep at the same time each night, and experiment to see which time of waking best increases recall.

Originally Posted by Ailos

No prob. Yeah, you have a better chance of waking up in the middle of a dream the later you sleep in. However, for many, the main purpose of the WBTB method isn't just to increase recall if they happen to wake in the midst of a dream, but rather to make it easier to slip into a WILD. Since your brain is in the later stages of sleep, and already got a good deal of its N-REM sleep, it falls quicker back to REM than it would have earlier in the night. As a result, it's possible to consciously fall into dreaming, something not easily done otherwise.

But yea, I too find it easier to remember dreams if I'm waken up right in the middle. My advice would be to make a schedule/routine so that you get the same amount of sleep at the same time each night, and experiment to see which time of waking best increases recall.

cool, hey thanks a lot man that really helps. I'll report tomorrow morning how it went as I'm just going to sleep now. Wish me luck!

so, I wasn't able to become lucid in the past night but I do remember what I was dreaming about before, and after I woke up in the middle of sleep. Though the two dreams were similar, I wasn't able to relate and become lucid..

Anyone have any suggestions or tips?