Thread: Discovery Health Interview With Lucid Dreamers

that'd be cool if there was a documentary on lucid dreaming / astral projection / obe..

but there isnt. Why is this stuff so closed doors to the general public

Good find quite an interesting read. I think the reason LDing isn’t known by the general public is down to the fact that people like quick fixes and its something you have to work at. Tell someone about LDing and a lot of the time they will say something like ‘I would like to but I don’t have time for it’. Sad realy :-(

Nice article, exept it failed to mention what exactly lucid dreams are :/

A very nice article, it's good that it sums up what lucid dreamers tend to do, and can do. It's still weird that they don't mention that it's a dream where you actually have control though . Maybe they think it's obvious since the people talk about what they like to do?

Yeah but it may be better if they didn't. They would probably mess it up and say stuff like "lucid dreamers make it so their dreams are really vivid". Now curious people can go research it by themselves.

nice to see lucid dreaming getting out there. It seems to be exploding in popularity....ok maybe thats an exageration, bu it is growing. It's gonna be hard to ignore for long. Its jsut so damn amazing...isnt it?

Interesting read... but as was said, if only there was a documentary.

We could make a script post on the forum, and when everyone have corrected and editet it to the most interesting documentary script ever made about LD we could send it to a television station. Commercial for Dream Views to

hahah, that'd be awesome Jammy

Heh yeah, I agree with ya Turkey. Silly laziness.

lol Jammy, I think this place would then start majorly overflowing with people.. icedawg would have a heart attack.

Originally posted by Scwigglie
Heh yeah, I agree with ya Turkey. * Silly laziness.

lol Jammy, I think this place would then start majorly overflowing with people.. icedawg would have a heart attack. *

^ahahahaa

Darklord...you're the biggest post whore since....Jin.

I just dont like the way it seems to be making lucid dreaming out to be some spiritual thing likened to meditation and chakras-i know it does not mention it but it kinda reads like that.
I do believe that those things are connected and use them that way myself but even for average joe lucid dreaming can be made interesting...but once people hear "bathed in white light" sceptisisim creeps in.

heres another article-what do you think?

PINCH ME-
I’m Dreaming

Could Conscious dreaming become a new Psychological treatment?

The Matrix was a hit of its time, despite whatever criticism the sequels received the original Matrix fantasy lulled many people into a cult following of the movie and its characters.
The idea was attractive; a man has a kind of awakening to his reality and realizes that he has been living in his head for his entire life. He discovers he is a prophecy to the already awake people and sets about to fulfil what is expected of him.
What can we learn from this movie, many would assume-not much- that it is simply a strewn together love story with a whimsical idea that would never in any way happen or have any relevance to humanity.
The truth is that the Matrix fantasy is available to us all and could prove to be a very interesting psychological scientific accomplishment if it is (figured out) to humanity in general.
The reason that this Matrix is so interesting is because it is in your head.
Every night we dream for approximately () and in our lifetime for a total of about (). But despite the amazing amount of R.E.M. sleep we all have The entire area of dreams remains a taboo subject to the scientific community- too risky to study and too controversial to publish results on.
But a particular type of dreaming is intriguing the scientific community now, the new dreaming is called Lucid Dreaming. Lucid is Latin for conscious, which is exactly what lucid dreaming is- it is knowing you are dreaming while you are dreaming.
It may seem a paradox to many people but the idea is entirely possible for everyone to achieve. (See () ) through very little work and the results of the new studies being done could shed new light on the very concept of human consciousness.
In the early 1980’s Dr Stephen Laberge began his controversial research into dreams. He chose primarily to focus on Lucid dreaming and all aspects of dreams related to this, his results continue and remain a great insight to lucid dreamers worldwide.
His studies proved that consciousness was possible in dreams and amazed many by forming a communication between the waking world and the dream world. He preformed the first of these groundbreaking experiments on himself by attaining lucidity in a dream (his stage of sleep was measured by an EEG) and communicating with pre-determined signals to the scientists keeping watch, he moved his eyes in Morse code and clenched his fists in rapid succession.
Since then he has done many new studies and written books on the topic, helping to create the worldwide web of lucid-dreamers that have discovered it in one way or another.
Now a new aspect of lucid dreaming is gaining interest, it has been shown that while in a lucid dream people are able to access the sub-conscious and preform self hypnosis or speak and communicate with the sub conscious. By doing this many were able to control, manipulate and explore aspects of their waking consciousness and personality-the question began to arise-could lucid dreaming help mental illnesses?
‘Its like a kind of virtual reality’ Dr Sarah Framer, HOD at the Hawaii Sleep Research Facility tell s me as we stroll the grounds.
“People are in a sensory playground that is as real if not more realistic than the waking world, they are able to act out any desire without moral, social or physical boundaries in a physical reality that wonderfully mirrors and re-creates the waking world. Until we began our research we always assumed it was soley a recreational thing for people”.
But the real surprise came when Sebastian Wader, a patient who had come to the Hawaii facility for help with nightmare-induced insomnia, confronted a common demon of his dreams.
”I was in the dream as usual, running down the main street of my hometown with a man 8ft tall chasing me, then I remembered that this was my old nightmare-I immediately began to gain control of the situation. As I expected when I turned around the man was still there, walking slowly towards me. But I felt no fear knowing that he was just a manifestation from my mind. I decided to see if I could ask him some questions and confront him- ‘what are you’ I asked him, he turned and looked at me ‘you are too scared to realize’ he said in a deep muscular voice-then I realized-the voice of my deceased father! ‘Dad?’ – he then began to change shape-into the small and frail crippled body of my dad in his last years battling cancer ‘to dust, we must’ the small shape said to me in a voice almost gone- ‘to light? We might’.”
Sebastian’s experience was an enlightening one for both himself and researchers to whom he told the tale.
“ We have known for a long time that dreams are visual poems with countless meanings being found through free association, but Sebastian’s father in the dream was a manifestation of Sebastian’s fear of death that he had not confronted after his fathers passing. Sebastian was at peace with death and his insomnia after this Lucid Dream and since then has had many exiting experiences in his dreams including meeting and speaking with his father who he had not been very close with in life.
Sarah discovered that there were a great many stories from lucid dreamers who had confronted people, objects and creatures of their dreams.
“ It was remarkable to find that people were not just using Lucid Dreaming a an recreational, but they were and are also using lucid dreaming as a tool to heal psychological traumas and better their waking lives”
Sarah published the immature results she had assembled in the ‘scientific journal’ with a request for any psychologists interested in the field of dreams to join her in her research and was pleased to have replies from psychologists the world over that were interested in furthering the research and possibly creating a new treatment.
The man she hired was Miles Usaday a young ()ian who had his own research facility in Bosnia but was more than pleased to relocate to the sunny Hawaii research faculty with better conditions and equipment.
“What exited me most was the application of this ancient tool in western civilisation” Miles tells me, “ For a long time eastern religions have used Lucid dreaming as a powerful tool, now westerns could also”.
They began the work on individuals who came to the facility hoping conquer sleeping problems based on nightmares, but extended the research into other areas including insomnia, depression and a range of other mental problems.
“First we had to teach the patients Lucid Dreaming, this in itself was simple-then we found that what worked well in one area of the research would work equally well in another-it was a very exiting time”
The results after years of research and treating patients is remarkable, Sarah and Miles have been able to cure a great many mental illnesses with a 89% success rate with checkups after one year showing that only 9% had relapses.
“This is an amazing outcome,” Sarah tells me excitedly as she shows me the results “ we have shown that the human mind is extremely accessible in the R.E.M. state and that it can be healed by using this extra accessibility”
Sarah and Miles continue to work on Lucid Dreaming as a treatment for mental illnesses, they have a 2 week program involving teaching Lucid dreaming, dream analysis and personal meetings with either of them to talk about the next step to take in dreams. They continue to explore other areas of the treatment.
“The human Brain is a very complex tool” Sarah continues “and Lucid Dreaming uses this tool to the ultimate, the results show that anyone can make use of this wonderful tool and make the most of the sleeping hours”.

Very interesting - nice to see articles that have such good reports of the psychological uses...