Problems falling asleep and 4 legs.

Hi, I have 2 questions for you guys.

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I have problems falling asleep at night. Everytime I do a WBTB or try to FILD I lay there for over an hour before falling asleep. By then I'm obviously not trying to FILD anymore. Normally I can fall asleep quite quick but since I've started training for LD's it takes me longer. :roll:

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During one of my sleepless encounters last night I got this weird feeling. I had done a WBTB and read some posts on DV for 15 minutes, done a lot of reality checks, you know the deal. Well anyway, while I was lying there it felt like I pulled my knees up so my legs were in a < instead of a |. Then I realized I hadn't moved my legs at all. It just felt as if I had 4 legs for a second. If anyone can explain this to me I would be thankfull :)

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Originally Posted by SamJoe

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Well anyway, while I was lying there it felt like I pulled my knees up so my legs where in a < instead of a |. Then I realized I hadn't moved my legs at all. It just felt as if I had 4 legs for a second. If anyone can explain this to me I would be thankfull :)

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This is the part you were in a dream :lol: So WBTB worked for you. Next time you felt something like that, either try to get up from bed or visualize a dream scene since you are already in a dream.

Oh really? :o

I thought I was still awake and I didn't dare to move anymore since I thought that would wake me up even further..

Thanks I'll keep that in mind the next time :)

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Originally Posted by roland3tr

This is the part you were in a dream :lol: So WBTB worked for you. Next time you felt something like that, either try to get up from bed or visualize a dream scene since you are already in a dream.

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During my first wild attempt I got to a point where I felt like my limbs were all bent out of shape. I assumed this was part of the onset of SP.

If i'd jumped out of bed at this point, would I have been dreaming?

"I assumed this was part of the onset of SP." It is. When it happens try to imagine that you are floating. Then you'll find you are. After that, try to get a visual. When you get the floating feeling you will already be in a dream.

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Originally Posted by SamJoe

Oh really? :o

I thought I was still awake and I didn't dare to move anymore since I thought that would wake me up even further..

Thanks I'll keep that in mind the next time :)

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Well you felt like you had 4 legs :lol: You must have been in a dream :) And also, I exprienced the same things with my hands when I WILDed.

Yeah but with 4 legs I mean it felt like I pullled my knees in but I could still feel my legs lying on my bed in the same position.

Anyway I do think it was a near lucid, if I only had done a reality check. :roll:

Yeah thats what I was saying. Belive me that feeling itself is a RC ;)

I'll a try a WBTB tonight again, this time I'll try to remember what you said or even read this post in my 15 minutes of being awake.

I'll tell you how it went tomorrow :)

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Excel, if you want to get people's advice, either post a topic of your own, or PM them. Don't spam. This is your warning.

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Originally Posted by SamJoe

I'll a try a WBTB tonight again, this time I'll try to remember what you said or even read this post in my 15 minutes of being awake.

I'll tell you how it went tomorrow :)

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Waiting for it :cheers:

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So you ordered it? how long ago? you have to make sure you post ur results

excelman2001, you have learn how to use a forum first. You can't just post your questions in a random thread.

sorry, well can you tell me how to do it please? Thanks

Well you can start by looking here

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This is what you are asking. If you have any question about it, post it in that thread.

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excelman, when some one is a new user and posts a link to a product, any forum out there thinks of it as spam.

Hey SamJoe, so were you doing anything in particular for that hour you were "awake?" I mean were you trying to keep yourself awake, or were you just trying to go back to sleep when you experienced that feeling?

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Originally Posted by excelman2001

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Well I think he was trying to SPAM

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Originally Posted by roland3tr

Well I think he was trying to SPAM

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I think he is spamming.

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Originally Posted by Tweek

excelman, when some one is a new user and posts a link to a product, any forum out there thinks of it as spam.

Hey SamJoe, so were you doing anything in particular for that hour you were "awake?" I mean were you trying to keep yourself awake, or were you just trying to go back to sleep when you experienced that feeling?

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Hey Tweek.
I´m actually only staying up for 15 minutes, as Billybob said. I just read a little bit on DV, go to the bathroom and RC a lot. I was just trying to fall asleep normally when I felt that feeling, no WILDs or FILDs

I´m in my WBTB session right now :banana:

Oh, alright I see. I wish I was that lucky. I'm having a hard time question reality in dreams. I had 6 last night with no recolection of ever questioning reality. Even though I do it all the time in waking life. :eek:

Well I forgot to do a RC aswell in my 4-legged experience -.-

Last night didn't have any results, I fell asleep quick this time but I failed to recognize that I was dreaming. I don't remember the dream at all..