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I guess the title says it all.
Er, no but that sounds pretty neat. I've had people walk next to me and narrate. That was pretty cool.
I don't really know what else to tell you.
Whoo, this is awkward.
No, wish I had tough, it seems so cool.
Ugh, yes I've had someone narrating my dreams! I've always found it annoying!
Ditto.....Quote:
Originally Posted by seeker28
"As the boy leaves his house he slowly begins his adventure, where this will take him few know however this does not stop his eagerness for the journey."
"Soon after his departure the boy meets many fellow travelers along his street"
And the fool just went on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on...... and on and on.... and on....
haha lol ---> on and on.
But sometimes I think it will be cool to have a narrator for a bit. Maybe in the begging of a fight like in the movies. And hopefully you have control over it so it doesn;t go on and on and on lol
I get narrators all the time. I've even had them in my lucid dreams. Sometimes I get something similar, where I am imagining how I will write-up the dream in my DJ as the dream is happening. Like I am translating it, or narrating it myself.
I like to go with the flow and see where my dreams take me. I watch them as if I was watching a movie, or reading a book. I assume that this attitude is what triggers the narrative.
Yep, sometimes I have a dream that I'm in a documentary and I see myself in 3rd person, hear narrators and everything. It's weird, but pretty cool.
I gotta try that!
That should be fun. I'd be constantly telling him to shut up.
Only one time that I can remember.
I do have "theme" songs in my dreams, though. It's really weird. A couple of nights ago, I had a dream where I was in love with some strange man. I found it odd, since I am happily married. I was sitting at a table with him, and the song "Tonight, I celebrate my love for you..." came on. I get songs in my dreams all the time.
Once, I was attempting a WILD, and I was making pretty good progress, when suddenly this man's voice said, "Her attempts at WILDing have long been a source of amusement to many." He spoke as though it were a documentary, or something. It rather threw me off what I was doing.
Ive had narrators in non-lucid dreams, but I have never had a narrator in a lucid dream, It actually sounds like it has the potential to be fun.
Yep.
I get this frequently.
For true seekers, those who will go farthest, this is one of the most valuable experiences. Narration can bring real knowledge, real insight. This can be confirmation that what you are experiencing is maybe not merely a dream, but that you are tapping into the multiverse itself ... alternate time lines, different realms, other earths. Physics is becoming increasingly clear about this. The multiverse is real. This is the broader reality in which we live, and which we might affect.
And dreams are a vehicle for discovering it.
And THIS is why I really can't understand or condone the video junkie approach to dream experience that seems to predominate here. No doubt it's the same people who winge about all of the violence and injustice in this world, going about playing sociopathic superman in their lucid dreams. But, of course, there's a solution for that, too.
So, here are some examples of narrated topics I've tuned in to:
- the emperial antimatter alliance
- the global commodity crisis (from an other earth - nice moving sidewalk subways)
- Abulafia
- the Russo-German alliance (alternate-Earth time line)
- on becoming a Buddha
Empathy and understanding are the keys, people. The Golden Rule. Live it or lose it.
Thanks,
PQ
whoa man, i take offense to that (not that anyone cares) i love watching my dreams unfold, and sometimes i take action (when lucid, sometimes when i'm not also), you went overboard with your statements. don't you have "empathy" (your golden rule) towards people who just like to relax and watch their dreams? or do you just like being hypocritical?Quote:
Originally Posted by Posquant
Heh i often have narrators in my dreams, its really handy, often times i can control the narrators and control my dreams directly without actually having to imagine everything
Ok. Noted. I'll have to be more careful.
I didn't say anything critical "towards people who just like to relax and watch their dreams". Dreaming is cool. A gift.
I was critical of clueless people who take dreams seriously enough to practice WILD, DILD etc., but then - by acting like thugs or raging sociopaths - disrespect what they find when they get there.
I should have been clearer about my criticism. Read the posts on "what's your favorite lucid power", to see what I mean. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...471#post948471
yeah i totally misunderstood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Posquant
edit: well i see nothing wrong with a"acting like thugs or raging sociopaths" in dreams. i sure as hell don't do it, but if that's what some people need to do to vent it out than more power to them. as long as they are behaved and "normal" in RL than i see absolutely nothing wrong with it. i see that your views on the matter are that you believe dreams to be "real" places, and if i had the same belief than i would also be against people acting like jerks in dreams. what i believe is when someone is lucid they should just enjoy it in anyway they feel like, whether it's killing DCs or just going for a trip to mars.
For me, it is usually like I can just read everyones mind, and thay can read mine.. its weird.. I Geuss its a dream sign
not in my ld's but lots of times in regular ones. though i'm usually always observing passively during these dreams (like I'm not in them myself). its like watching a movie for me.
Ha! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kadal
Well. I guess that's the crux of it. What are dreams? Rather ... how do they function?
0ur vocabulary is inadequate here. The statement "dreams are real" is basically empty. Of course they are subjectively real... actual experiences, memorable sensations, etc. etc. Real information.
But are they about "real places"...about actual entities / beings, having actual sensations etc. etc.?
One can just assume that dreams are not about real places and people. That is convenient. Comfortable. But is it true? "Real", here, might mean: "capable of being experienced in common for entities of the type."
Well. Have you ever seen something (a person, place, thing) in a dream that you've never seen elsewhere in waking life, personally or in any movie or picture? This could be the smallest thing, really. Even a single example? If so, what do you suppose is the source of such coherent and anomalous information? What did you see? Have you ever really thought about it?
Did you mind just make it up? If not, then you (your perceptual reach) "went" there, more or less ... and that "there" thus necessarily HAS ITS OWN REALITY.
See what I mean?
Without knowing "how it works" and what all exists, really, and being unable to rule out the possibility, and having a lot of weird science coming together to say how it might be so ... I just think it's much more responsible to assume that people's dream rampages might have victims just as real as (if less defenseless than) the perpetrators. Who might those victims be? What is their media, their reality? Are they nothing, though we can perceive and interact with them ... even kill them?
I dunno. And that means that I don't know enough to deny much of anything, either.
Thanks,
PQ
Well. I guess that's the crux of it. What are dreams? Rather ... how do they function?Quote:
Originally Posted by ForgottenDream
0ur vocabulary is inadequate here. The statement "dreams are real" is basically empty. Of course they are subjectively real... actual experiences, memorable sensations, etc. etc. Real information.
But are they about "real places"...about actual entities / beings, having actual sensations etc. etc.?
One can just assume that dreams are not about real places and people. That is convenient. Comfortable. But is it true? "Real", here, might mean: "capable of being experienced in common for entities of the type."
Well. Have you ever seen something (a person, place, thing) in a dream that you've never seen elsewhere in waking life, personally or in any movie or picture? This could be the smallest thing, really. Even a single example? If so, what do you suppose is the source of such coherent and anomalous information? What did you see? Have you ever really thought about it?
Did you mind just make it up? If not, then you (your perceptual reach) "went" there, more or less ... and that "there" thus necessarily HAS ITS OWN REALITY.
See what I mean?
Without knowing "how it works" and what all exists, really, and being unable to rule out the possibility, and having a lot of weird science coming together to say how it might be so ... I just think it's much more responsible to assume that people's dream rampages might have victims just as real as (if less defenseless than) the perpetrators. Who might those victims be? What is their media, their reality? Are they nothing, though we can perceive and interact with them ... even kill them?
I dunno. And that means that I don't know enough to deny much of anything, either.
Thanks,
PQ
I get narrators in a lot of my normal dreams. It's funny when I wake up but in the dream it seems so ridiculously normal.
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Originally Posted by Posquant
i respect what you may or may not believe. however since you're responding i might as well respond back with my own views.
i draw a lot, and write stories. most of my drawings are things that have never set foot on this earth, you can call it surrealism or whatever i don't really bother with art genres. anyway, my point is, just because you see something you've never seen before, doesn't mean there's something special or significant about. by the way, everything i've ever seen in a dream i could have easily imagined during waking life (flying, robots, being one with everything, etc.) nothing has been totally alien to me in any dream of any sort lucid or non-lucid. that does not mean they aren't amazing and definitely unique, i'm just saying i could have thought of everything i've ever dreamed about while awake. i'm open to the slight possibility of dreams being "real" because as you've said you experience real feelings, memories, etc. but i know that dreams aren't real in the same way that you and me are, and what i mean by that is solid. dreams are very fluid and flow easily and change constantly even with recurring dreams nothing is exactly the same, there's always something different about it, at least with my experiences and from what i've heard of others.
No, but I was the narrator once. Harassing the poor DCs who could do nothing about it. First I would narrate things they weren't doing, and this would get them angry. Then I would narrate something undesirable and make it come to pass.
Hehe, all good fun. :)
Wow! I had no idea this occurred so frequently!
For me, sadly (luckily?), I get no narrations. Not in lucid dreams, nor normal dreams. I narrated my chemistry studying last night (in a dream), but that doesn't count for much.
Abra, I would say luckily because for me it's just annoying if someone narrates my dreams. It' like WTF, get out, this is MY dream, ya know?
I agree. wouldnt you say that the creation of something absolutely unique is part of what gives credit to the reason why creativity and imagination are words that have come to exist?Quote:
Originally Posted by ForgottenDream
i'm not following :PQuote:
Originally Posted by The Jace
what do you mean exactly?
everything comes from somewhere, we just rearrange things, sort of like molecules and atoms rearranging to make 'different' things, although it's the same things just moved around.
what people define as creative is just people rearranging things in there own way. so really there is no 'creation', just perpetual rearrangement.
for example, a dragon is made up of a bird (talons), a big cat (big sharp teeth) a lizard (scales), etc. basically all the major predators combined to make a 'super predator'. so all these things put together make something 'new'. my point is that's how people can think of new ideas from things that already exist.
well certainly there is a limited number of things to work with (only so many elements, colors, materials, ideas) but new things do come into fruition that aren't just re imaginings. yes everything comes from somewhere, but do you mean to imply that everything is based on one thing? a bird, you could argue, is made up of its organs, organs made of tissue, made of cells, made of atoms, made of all the parts that make up atoms down to that very tiny final piece of whatever that makes up all life. it seems if you continue your point though it would make sense to say that there are infinite possibilities for new things rather than just a limited number of re-imaginings.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForgottenDream
you're right, everything is based on the same thing, if you want to get atomic about it, but a new animal is not a new element, and a new element is not a new idea. I guess what I'm saying (in a certainly convoluted fashion) is that new ideas can be created, some may be rearrangements (printing press essentially automating scribes), but some can be entirely new. (scientific explanations typically do this)
Yes, I have. It said, "Here is a perfect example of the three most evil things in existence; Thieves, people who climb walls, and dolphins."
I got my first narrator 2 days ago although it was not lucid. I was flying over a kind of big forest with little swamps in it. It was kind of creepy. Narrator was a female. She talked the whole time when I flied and landed. There were shapes, symbols on the swamp and the narrotor was saying these symbols mean something very evil. Then saying " Doomsday is coming". When I landed and went to see the symbols I felt an unknown evil and danger instantly. By the way those symbols were kyriptonian as the narrator said. But they were different than kyriptonian symbols. I guess too much Smallville can cause that kind of dreams :D
omg i did have a dream earlier this week anyways i saw titles and it was kinda like a movie it was like me refering water sports and music was playing and something in my head was like part 2 n cant remember what he was saying but i kinda realised i dreamt this before then i just thought oh well -.-
i don't agree that something can be completely new. you don't have to go to the atomic level or below to see this, planets and solar systems resemble atoms anyway but that's beside the point. if i kept going with my point (which is nothing is new) than yes it is a limited number of the 'human' imagination, and that was part of my point also (that humans can't imagine something new). reconfiguring doesn't need conscious effort, you and i can't possibly comprehend the magnitude of how things rearrange. we as humans take what we see and say "i discovered this, or i 'made' this" where in fact it's always been there (america for example), or we just move things around and make a new invention. but what's new to us is really something that has always been there just not in the same place (so distance between molecules and atoms is the difference between 'new' and 'old' from the human view point).Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jace
in short, the imagination is limited, not the possibilities, like i said we can't even comprehend the possibilities. i should have just said that in the first place :P
edit: i know america has not always been around, it's just been there long before we knew about it.
*thread cpr*
I would love for Morgan Freeman to narrate my dreams. Whenever I read things, I here his voice. It's quite fun.
*Enlarge your penis now!*
"hmmm, sounds....beautiful."