Thread: Did you ever have a narrator talk in your LD's?

Originally Posted by The Jace

I agree. wouldnt you say that the creation of something absolutely unique is part of what gives credit to the reason why creativity and imagination are words that have come to exist?

i'm not following

what do you mean exactly?

everything comes from somewhere, we just rearrange things, sort of like molecules and atoms rearranging to make 'different' things, although it's the same things just moved around.

what people define as creative is just people rearranging things in there own way. so really there is no 'creation', just perpetual rearrangement.

for example, a dragon is made up of a bird (talons), a big cat (big sharp teeth) a lizard (scales), etc. basically all the major predators combined to make a 'super predator'. so all these things put together make something 'new'. my point is that's how people can think of new ideas from things that already exist.

Originally Posted by ForgottenDream

i'm not following

what do you mean exactly?

everything comes from somewhere, we just rearrange things, sort of like molecules and atoms rearranging to make 'different' things, although it's the same things just moved around.

what people define as creative is just people rearranging things in there own way. so really there is no 'creation', just perpetual rearrangement.

for example, a dragon is made up of a bird (talons), a big cat (big sharp teeth) a lizard (scales), etc. basically all the major predators combined to make a 'super predator'. so all these things put together make something 'new'. my point is that's how people can think of new ideas from things that already exist.

well certainly there is a limited number of things to work with (only so many elements, colors, materials, ideas) but new things do come into fruition that aren't just re imaginings. yes everything comes from somewhere, but do you mean to imply that everything is based on one thing? a bird, you could argue, is made up of its organs, organs made of tissue, made of cells, made of atoms, made of all the parts that make up atoms down to that very tiny final piece of whatever that makes up all life. it seems if you continue your point though it would make sense to say that there are infinite possibilities for new things rather than just a limited number of re-imaginings.

you're right, everything is based on the same thing, if you want to get atomic about it, but a new animal is not a new element, and a new element is not a new idea. I guess what I'm saying (in a certainly convoluted fashion) is that new ideas can be created, some may be rearrangements (printing press essentially automating scribes), but some can be entirely new. (scientific explanations typically do this)

Originally Posted by The Jace

well certainly there is a limited number of things to work with (only so many elements, colors, materials, ideas) but new things do come into fruition that aren't just re imaginings. yes everything comes from somewhere, but do you mean to imply that everything is based on one thing? a bird, you could argue, is made up of its organs, organs made of tissue, made of cells, made of atoms, made of all the parts that make up atoms down to that very tiny final piece of whatever that makes up all life. it seems if you continue your point though it would make sense to say that there are infinite possibilities for new things rather than just a limited number of re-imaginings.

you're right, everything is based on the same thing, if you want to get atomic about it, but a new animal is not a new element, and a new element is not a new idea. I guess what I'm saying (in a certainly convoluted fashion) is that new ideas can be created, some may be rearrangements (printing press essentially automating scribes), but some can be entirely new. (scientific explanations typically do this)

i don't agree that something can be completely new. you don't have to go to the atomic level or below to see this, planets and solar systems resemble atoms anyway but that's beside the point. if i kept going with my point (which is nothing is new) than yes it is a limited number of the 'human' imagination, and that was part of my point also (that humans can't imagine something new). reconfiguring doesn't need conscious effort, you and i can't possibly comprehend the magnitude of how things rearrange. we as humans take what we see and say "i discovered this, or i 'made' this" where in fact it's always been there (america for example), or we just move things around and make a new invention. but what's new to us is really something that has always been there just not in the same place (so distance between molecules and atoms is the difference between 'new' and 'old' from the human view point).

in short, the imagination is limited, not the possibilities, like i said we can't even comprehend the possibilities. i should have just said that in the first place

edit: i know america has not always been around, it's just been there long before we knew about it.

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