SP question

**Darz** · 12-07-2008 02:11 PM

I have a question, this happened to me: I was trying to get to sleep paralysis to then enter a lucid dream state using the sp tutorial, but I got tired of waiting so i just fell asleep; suddenly I woke up and heard those rushing noises characteristic of deep sleep, and i thought I was going through a hypnopompic state, cause i've had those several times, and although I heard the noises and I could literally see images with my eyes closed I then must have fallen asleep because i couldn't remember anything after that, so my question is is it possible to enter a hypnagogia state after falling asleep and then waking up in that state and so forth?

**Shift** · 12-07-2008 03:33 PM

Well, post-sleep it is technically called hypnopompia.
Hypnagogia is essentially the transition between wakefullness and sleep. So yea you'd be going through it if you were awake and went back to sleep, though you may not be aware of it, I guess. I'm not really sure I understand your final question, sorry

**Darz** · 12-07-2008 03:42 PM

hmm, let me put it this way; instead of being aware while entering sleep paralysis, is it possible that i fell asleep then woke up then experienced sleep paraliysis (hypnagogia) and not (hypnopompia); because when i woke up i heard the rushing sound and would become like fully awake but in this case i woke up experienced the sounds, images and then fell in a deep sleep

**Shift** · 12-07-2008 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Darz

hmm, let me put it this way; instead of being aware while entering sleep paralysis, is it possible that i fell asleep then woke up then experienced sleep paraliysis (hypnagogia) and not (hypnopompia); because when i woke up i heard the rushing sound and would become like fully awake but in this case i woke up experienced the sounds, images and then fell in a deep sleep

Ah ok. Yes, it is actually more common to experience sleep paralysis when waking up, in the general population at least. (This may or may not differ in LDers, who attempt to initiate SP before sleep).

It's important to remember though that SP is not always accompanied by HH, and the same is true for HH- it's not always accompanied by SP. Unless you couldn't move, you can't say for a fact that you were in sleep paralysis. But it is certainly possible you experienced hypnopompic hallucinations. Where the line is drawn (sleep -> hypnoH -> wakefullness -> hypnaH -> sleep) is really up to you or the machines if you just so happened to be monitoring yourself. Hope I got your question right

**moonshine** · 12-07-2008 06:55 PM

This guide should help.

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=65007

**Darz** · 12-07-2008 11:01 PM

Shift u answered it most of it and u made and interesting point about whether i could move or not cause i really dont remember if i even tried to move; moonshine thank you for the guide, i've been following it but my question although related isn't answered there, ty

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