Generally how long do Lucid's last?

**ClouD** · 06-29-2009 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by moonshine

Unlikely. 45-60min rem period is about max.

Even if you did have a 2 hour lucid, you wouldn't remember most of it.
Lucid memories, like dream memories, have a way of melting away over time.

We also dream outside of REM.
Proven simply, many people wake up during the night often, while remembering the dream that just occurred.

If you set an alarm to every few hours, and know how to wake up without losing the dream memory imprint (it is easy, just don't get distracted), then very easily you can see this -- unless you're suggesting every single time is after/during an REM period.

You can also achieve two hours of lucid dream in the morning quite easily, if you wake up and then go back to sleep, this is easy I'd say for everyone that won't wake themselves up (this period of dreaming seems to always be very shallow). If you WILD, which I also find quickest (to transition) in the mornings, then you can determine the length of lucid from entry point to wake-up. I have done this the last few times I WILDd, and kept check of the time (more-so to keep track myself of the dream-waking ratio than anything else), and it has been around the two hour mark usually. As a side note, it seems to feel longer than it is in waking life. A lot of events can pass over two hours if you just go with the flow, which can look much longer in retrospect.

Personally I find it very pleasant to lucid dream in the mornings if I do get a chance to sleep in (which is pretty often nowadays), it's much easier to keep it steady while >fucking around<.

Of course I can't prove the many hours that I LD, but if I can do it I think anyone can -- that is to say if you believe I can do it, along with all of the other tibetan wackos and posing teens at DV.

Well actually, believing is stupid, you'd be an idiot to take anyone's word for anything, especially this subjective. Either know, don't comment either way, or lie if you will, imo.

**Arutad** · 06-29-2009 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by mrdeano

The earlier you do a RC within the dream, the longer the lucid.

The earlier in the night you mean? I can't see why it would make the lucid longer... Why?

Originally Posted by Mirui789

I heard someone had a 2hour lucid

Oh that's lame, I heard about a few-days lucid

The perception of time is really warped there.

ClouD, do you have a habit of not replying to replies?

**mrdeano** · 06-29-2009 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Arutad

The earlier in the night you mean? I can't see why it would make the lucid longer... Why?

No earlier in the dream.

**Arutad** · 06-29-2009 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by mrdeano

No earlier in the dream.

It's a joke right? You can't do an RC anywhere else than at the earliest point ofthe lucid dream.

**mrdeano** · 06-29-2009 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Arutad

It's a joke right? You can't do an RC anywhere else than at the earliest point ofthe lucid dream.

Okay. the earlier you do a RC in a normal dream the longer you can have a lucid dream.

**Arutad** · 06-29-2009 06:56 PM

Still sounds like you're pulling my leg. How can you ever know when it's the earliest moment of a dream, unless what you mean is doing an RC earilier in the night, but you already denied that. Do you mean in the very beginning of the REM-cycle?

**mrdeano** · 06-29-2009 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Arutad

Still sounds like you're pulling my leg. How can you ever know when it's the earliest moment of a dream, unless what you mean is doing an RC earilier in the night, but you already denied that. Do you mean in the very beginning of the REM-cycle?

Yah more or less.

I am not good at describing this. Maybe someone else can help me out?

**ClouD** · 06-29-2009 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Arutad

ClouD, do you have a habit of not replying to replies?

In due time. Tomorrow, perhaps, after sleep. T_T

**Arutad** · 06-29-2009 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by mrdeano

Yah more or less.

I am not good at describing this. Maybe someone else can help me out?

I see now. But damn, it took quite a while for me to understand you!

Ok now it makes sense.

I wonder if NREM-sleep can be lucid, however, so that it wouldn't be necessary to be limited by a REM-cycle length. It's usually such a bunch of self-repetitive BS that I can only picture lucidity in NREM as a total change of the NREM-nature. NREM often consists of uncontrollably thinking self-repetitive thoughts that don't really make sense, such an activity would be stopped by lucidity I'm sure.

Originally Posted by ClouD

In due time. Tomorrow, perhaps, after sleep. T_T

Not necessary, I can do without your great knowledge.

**ClouD** · 06-30-2009 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Arutad

Not necessary, I can do without your great knowledge.

So could I. Luckily you can escape it.

**moonshine** · 06-30-2009 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by ClouD

We also dream outside of REM.

True. And there does seem to be some bleed between REM and NREM sleep, so that REM like dreams can take place at the start and end of NREM periods. Apparently Sleep Paralysis has a U shaped curve in the NREM period rather than an on off switch, which would explain the overlap at the top and tail. But from what I can gather, for the most part NREM dreams, when they occour, are more like thoughts than immersive experiences.

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